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Post by Intercasa on Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:52 pm

So we learned of a new policy today with regard to people who have lived in Mexico for years and who are at present with a residente temporal document.

Before the local office was not honoring prior years on FM2 and FM3 to count towards the 4 years to be permanent unless the renewal number was reflected on the current immigration card.

Then recently the new format of the cards does not have the renewal number on them.

Today we attempted to do a 2 year temporal renewal of someone who had a 1 on the back or their card and they did not accept the renewal saying that they are now doing a search of all prior years and people who have been here 4 years will be required to go permanent.

People will need to review their prior years and history with immigration prior to applying for renewals or you may find they will not accept your temporary renewal and then you will have a fine time getting your money back from the bank.

Kind of funny as today we were notified that we won an immigration appeal for someone who has lived here many years and they failed to count prior years for him to jump to permanent without financials even though we included copies of the prior documents. Go figure!

This is good news for some but for others is little time to prepare for disposing of their cars in short order.
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Post by David on Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:18 pm

Thanks for the heads-up Spencer!
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Post by Rolly on Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:55 pm

Does this new procedure apply across the country, or is unique to GDL?
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Re: Forced to go Permanente?!

Post by Intercasa on Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:13 pm

We shall soon find out
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Post by SunshineyDay on Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:19 pm

"Today we attempted to do a 2 year temporal renewal of someone who had a 1 on the back or their card and they did not accept the renewal saying that they are now doing a search of all prior years and people who have been here 4 years will be required to go permanent."----Does not make sense?

So I guess the true test will be when someone with no number applies for Residente Permanente
Hmmmm not surprising! Stay tuned! So is there is a method to their m_______?

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Will I be forced to go permanente and get Mexican car registration?

Post by Sherman on Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:06 am

In January 2015, my temporal visa expires. When I renewed my visa two years ago, I was told that was as much time as I could get on my temporal.

Since things change around here, I'm just now looking to see what the 'rule' of the day will be for January 2015.

Questions:

Can I renew my temporal in January 2015? If not.
Can I get a new temporal when my current one expires? -- If so, what am I required to do?
Am I forced to become permanent?

For my foreign-plated car, under what circumstances can I keep my foreign plates?
Or, if I am forced to become permanent, must I then get Mexican car registration/plates?

I'm dreading even thinking about this ...
Thanks for the help.

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Re: Forced to go Permanente?!

Post by Intercasa on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:02 am

If you had 2 years or more prior to your current document never renewing late then they will probably make you go permanent and as such you cannot drive a foreign plated car.
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trying to stay temporal w/foreign plated cars

Post by Sherman on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:57 am

Intercasa wrote:If you had 2 years or more prior to your current document never renewing late then they will probably make you go permanent and as such you cannot drive a foreign plated car.  

Thanks Spencer ....

Before 'temporal', I had some years with an FM3.  It all added up to more than 5 years.
So, no renewal is possible.

Is it possible to go to Austin and apply for a new visa there to start the 'temporarl' timeline again, or is the only choice permanente?

If the only choice is permanente, then how much of an issue still exists for changing to Mexican registration for a 2011 model car, and a second car (not mine) which is 2013?


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Re: Forced to go Permanente?!

Post by Rolly on Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:10 pm

Yes, you can cancel your present Temporal, return to the USA, and begin the process again.
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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:22 pm

Just be sure you can meet the new financial requirements if you are going to start anew.
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Re: Forced to go Permanente?!

Post by Sherman on Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:04 pm

Rolly wrote:Yes, you can cancel your present Temporal, return to the USA, and begin the process again.

And that means what?
Can't I just let my current temporary expire?
Then, in the US, is there a waiting time.

When all this 'discussion' started a ways back, a couple people went to Austin, applied a new and got everything done in a week. Were they just lucky?

When we originally applied to come here, it took some time -- a month or two.

And, as for the financials, the discussion point is the 'income' and not the amount of money or assets? Is that true?

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Re: Forced to go Permanente?!

Post by Intercasa on Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:50 pm

If you do not want to go permanent due to your car it will be illegal when your current temporal expires so you will need to take it out of Mexico or get a retorno seguro later.
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Re: Forced to go Permanente?!

Post by Sherman on Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:12 pm

Intercasa wrote:If you do not want to go permanent due to your car it will be illegal when your current temporal expires so you will need to take it out of Mexico or get a retorno seguro later.

It sounds to me like it's time to make an appointment with Spencer.

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Re: Forced to go Permanente?!

Post by CanuckBob on Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:23 pm

Yep!!!
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