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An American becoming a Mexican Citizen

Post by Clueless on Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:53 am

I'm posting this here in case anyone else is interested.

I have been reading up on this and found from 2005, it seemed a pretty easy process, but when I went to 2013 there seems to be more involved.

I am permanente; lived here for 10+ years.

As I understand it, I can have dual nationality, American by birth and Mexican by naturalization.

I read that I don't have to take the (15 question) test if I'm over 60 (which I am).

I don't lose my American passport.

It takes about a year and I'm best getting an immigration attorney (Spencer of course).

Input appreciated.



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Post by Intercasa on Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:00 am

You need a new birth certificate with apostille and translation, federal police clearance letter, have to be able to speak basic Spanish with a guy who has a lisp, and cannot have been outside Mexico for more than 179 days in the past 2 years for starters.

Have 5 years on FM2, inmigrante or temporary / permanente resident visas, NO FM3 / no inmigrante or temporal estudiante counts
2 years with above documents and marriage to Mexican registered in Mexico or a Mexican child.
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Post by brigitte on Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:24 am

You are not a dual citizen while living in Mexico you are a Mexican citizen period.

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Post by Clueless on Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:27 am

Intercasa wrote:You need a new birth certificate with apostille and translation, federal police clearance letter, have to be able to speak basic Spanish with a guy who has a lisp, and cannot have been outside Mexico for more than 179 days in the past 2 years for starters.

Have 5 years on FM2, inmigrante or temporary / permanente resident visas, NO FM3 / no inmigrante or temporal estudiante counts
2 years with above documents and marriage to Mexican registered in Mexico or a Mexican child.  

When you say Federal clearance letter, you mean from Mexico or U.S?
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Post by brigitte on Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:51 am

Federal means Mexico city when you want to be Mexican.

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Post by SunFan on Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:49 pm

Spencer

What would I need as a Canadian citizen who can't get a birth certificate apostilled?

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Post by viajero on Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:50 pm

Clueless wrote:

When you say Federal clearance letter, you mean from Mexico or U.S?
In your case,cluless,you better hope it's a Mexican clearance,given your record NoB.

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Post by Intercasa on Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:40 pm

Canadians need a new long form birth certificate legalized in Ottowa or by a Mexican consulate in Canada.

http://www.international.gc.ca/department-ministere/authentication-authentification_documents.aspx?lang=eng
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Post by Clueless on Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:03 pm

viajero wrote:
Clueless wrote:

When you say Federal clearance letter, you mean from Mexico or U.S?
In your case,cluless,you better hope it's a Mexican clearance,given your record NOB.

Viajero; Thanks for your unsolicited input; Really, don't you have anything better to do than try to needle people?

My NOB record is not a concern to anyone other than you and a couple of others here who need a life.
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Post by CanuckBob on Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:55 pm

SunFan wrote:Spencer

What would  I need as a Canadian citizen who can't get a birth certificate apostilled?

TIA

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I had our "long form" birth certificates authorized and notarized by the Mexican consulate in Vancouver prior to coming here just in case I needed them for something.
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Post by Intercasa on Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:56 pm

Good to bring the long form certs legalised EXCEPT they will be subject to the following restrictions, well all birth / marriage / death certificates are:

For double nationality, registering a child, registering a marriage (with civil registry) and getting married they want the date of issue to be one year or less.

Date doesnt matter for using for immigration, IMSS, claiming a cadaver as a relative, filing for divorce, filing a probate action or using with a notary when invoking a beneficiary clause in a property deed
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Post by JoeInMO on Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:48 pm

Under the US Code of Federal Regulations you CANNOT denounce your US Citizenship unless you visit a US Consular and formally sign a an oath of renunciation. But that doesn't always work. If you have USA income you cannot sign the oath of renunciation without losing all USA SSA benefits, etc. If you have US income of any kind you have a problem. I'm a former US law enforcement official and contacted the third in command of Homeland Security over this issue. Best of luck... -Joe

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Post by brigitte on Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:03 am

First of all it is renounce not denounce and number 2 who is going to tell the US government you have renounced your US citizenship while in Mexico?? Not the Mexican government . If you want to become a Mexican citizen you have to sign that you renounce your original citizenship while in Mexico.
Since people renouncing their US citizenship while in Mexico do not go to the US consulate to do it they are still US citizens in the eyes of the US government and they are not going to lose any benefits which by the way are paid to people who are not citizens but who have paid in the system. You do not have to be a US citizen to receive income from the USA..
The renouncing of citizenship to the consulate is usually done for tax purposes and that is another issue altogether.
What has Homeland Scurity got to do with the subject??

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Post by brigitte on Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:04 am

By te way when I applied for citizenship I was told that my apostilled could not be over 3 month old..which caused me all kinds of problems. Was I told the wrong thing by SRE or has the rule changed?

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