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Post by Lorracita Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:59 am

06.04.2016
How many hours does your domestic staff need to work to get mandatory social security payments made for them. My staff (a married couple) have worked for me for 10 years and work 36 and 30 hours each. Am I obligated to by their IMSS?

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Post by brigitte Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:23 am

yes

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Post by Zedinmexico Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:33 am

Don't Domestic Staff have different rules??

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Post by Intercasa Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:12 pm

Domestic staff enrollment is not mandatory.  

Artículo 13. Voluntariamente podrán ser sujetos de aseguramiento al régimen obligatorio:
I. Los trabajadores en industrias familiares y los independientes, como profesionales, comerciantes en pequeño, artesanos y demás trabajadores no asalariados;
II. Los trabajadores domésticos;
III. Los ejidatarios, comuneros, colonos y pequeños propietarios;
IV. Los patrones personas físicas con trabajadores asegurados a su servicio, y
V. Los trabajadores al servicio de las administraciones públicas de la Federación, entidades federativas y municipios que estén excluidas o no comprendidas en otras leyes o decretos como sujetos de seguridad social.
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Post by Lorracita Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:18 pm

I received a call and then a visit from a representative from IMMS/Labor that said the laws posted by Spencer are not correct. He sent me the following translated in English and Spanish. Now I am more confused.




FEDERAL LABOR LAW

Chapter XIII

DOMESTIC WORKERS

ARTICLE 331. DOMESTIC WORKERS ARE PROVIDING SERVICES OF TOILET, ASSISTANCE AND OTHER RELATED TO OWN HOME OR A PERSON OR FAMILY.


ARTICLE 338. OBLIGATIONS IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE APPLIES, IN CASES OF ILLNESS THAT IS NOT WORKING, the employer must:

I. DOMESTIC WORKERS PAY THE SALARY THAT TO APPLY FOR A MONTH;

II. IF NOT CHRONIC DISEASE, PROVIDE MEDICAL ASSISTANCE BETWEEN BOTH ARE MADE HIS HEALING OR ASSUME ANY WORKER HEALTH CARE SERVICE; Y

III. If the disease is chronic and WORKER SERVICES RENDERED FOR SIX MONTHS AT LEAST PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE FOR THREE MONTHS TO, OR SOONER IF ASSUME ANY HEALTH CARE WORKER.
IMSS LAW
Article 13. VOLUNTARY ASSURANCE MAY BE SUBJECT TO MANDATORY OBLIGATION:

I. WORKERS IN FAMILY INDUSTRIES AND FREELANCE as professionals, small traders, craftsmen and other workers employed persons;

II. Domestic workers;
LEY FEDERAL DEL TRABAJO

CAPITULO XIII

TRABAJADORES DOMESTICOS

ARTICULO 331. TRABAJADORES DOMESTICOS SON LOS QUE PRESTAN LOS SERVICIOS DE ASEO, ASISTENCIA Y DEMAS PROPIOS O INHERENTES AL HOGAR DE UNA PERSONA O FAMILIA.


ARTICULO 338. ADEMAS DE LAS OBLIGACIONES A QUE SE REFIERE EL ARTICULO ANTERIOR, EN LOS CASOS DE ENFERMEDAD QUE NO SEA DE TRABAJO, EL PATRON DEBERA:

I. PAGAR AL TRABAJADOR DOMESTICO EL SALARIO QUE LE CORRESPONDA HASTA POR UN MES;

II. SI LA ENFERMEDAD NO ES CRONICA, PROPORCIONARLE ASISTENCIA MEDICA ENTRE TANTO SE LOGRA SU CURACION O SE HACE CARGO DEL TRABAJADOR ALGUN SERVICIO ASISTENCIAL; Y

III. SI LA ENFERMEDAD ES CRONICA Y EL TRABAJADOR HA PRESTADO SUS SERVICIOS DURANTE SEIS MESES POR LO MENOS, PROPORCIONARLE ASISTENCIA MEDICA HASTA POR TRES MESES, O ANTES SI SE HACE CARGO DEL TRABAJADOR ALGUN ASISTENCIAL.
LEY DEL IMSS
ARTICULO 13. VOLUNTARIAMENTE PODRAN SER SUJETOS DE ASEGURAMIENTO AL REGIMEN OBLIGATORIO:

I. LOS TRABAJADORES EN INDUSTRIAS FAMILIARES Y LOS INDEPENDIENTES, COMO PROFESIONALES, COMERCIANTES EN PEQUEÑO, ARTESANOS Y DEMAS TRABAJADORES NO ASALARIADOS;

II. LOS TRABAJADORES DOMESTICOS;

I asked him to clarify how many hours they have to work and he originally said we have to pay because they work 6 hours a day. Can somebody please clear this matter up for me.

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Post by Intercasa Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:27 pm

We have tried to sign up domestic workers and were told what I said, who visited you? Was it IMSS or labor board? Did they have an official card as there are scams. You cited federal labor law which isnt IMSS law.
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Post by Lorracita Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:02 pm

He had an official identification and said he was from the labor board.
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