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Post by gringomojado on Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:31 am

In Chicago,gasoline has increased 20%,owing the the usual lame excuse. Tortillas seem not to have risen. A friend says the price of tortillas has risen quite a bit this new year. Has tortilla risen much "Lakeside"?
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Post by slainte39 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:37 am

Don't know about tortillas, but a lot of restaurants and eating establishments have increased prices 20%, mas o menos.

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Post by CanuckBob on Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:46 pm

And that is a joke. A 20% fuel increase would amount to maybe a 2% or 3% increase on transport costs of consumer goods. The protests should be against companies that haphazardly raise their prices like this. Fuel in Canada and the US increases or decreases 20% on a regular basis. The Mexican businesses (protesters??) needs to get their heads out of their asses on this one IMO.


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Post by kipissippi on Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:12 pm

Yeah...but in the US and Canada..there's a possibility that they will come back down.
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Post by CanuckBob on Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:19 pm

.......And they can here too after the free market (de-regulation) goes into effect (March 1st??). I think these protesters are pissed off at a whole lot more than just this fuel price increase.

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Post by gringomojado on Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:44 pm

Many people think the outgoing government is looking to pad their bank accounts prior to leaving office.

When tortillas go up, so does almost everything else.
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Post by gringomojado on Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:46 pm

Will rates at "Houses of ill repute" go up too?
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Post by slainte39 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:50 pm

gringomojado wrote:Will rates at "Houses of ill repute" go up too?

It will depend on how far the "employees" have to commute and whether, or not, they eat tortillas.

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Post by Clueless on Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:32 pm

gringomojado wrote:Will rates at "Houses of ill repute" go up too?

LOL. As far as I guess, that is one area where it's strictly a supply and demand business when it comes to costs. And I believe it has always been an area for bargaining.

It's pretty simple; a worker would like to make $500 per hour but business is slow and there is competition, so if someone offers $300 for an hour, they may very well take it.The reasoning is simply math: At the end of the day/shift,what is more income, $350.00 or $0.00?

Even I ain't that clueless; it's business. BTW, looked up the laws on that profession, interesting. From what I read, not illegal to do but illegal to have a house or solicit. Guess it's encouraging independent businesses.
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Post by brigitte on Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:03 pm

Since a lot of the corn sold here is imported from the US it should go up hence the price of tortilla should go up to.. and that always is a problem..

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Post by gringomojado on Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:27 pm

Most MASECA comes from Central Illinois. Supposedly only non-GMO corn is allowed into Mexico!
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Post by brigitte on Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:14 pm

supposedly.. but I think they have some of GMO in some northern state in Mexico and the wind is bring it down south. They have found GMO corn in Oaxaca growing in some fields here and there...

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Post by gringomojado on Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:41 pm

Just takes one seed or one pollen particle!
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Post by Clueless on Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:15 am

So what's wrong with GMO? Do the benefits outweigh any risks?

Here is a very good explanation from Scientific American on the subject, and it's pretty objective.

For those of you who enjoy learning.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-genetically-modified-food/
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Post by brigitte on Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:42 am

I am looking at the economic impact of GMOs on the poor farmers not whether the stuff is safe or not.

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Post by RichD on Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:45 am

brigitte wrote:I am looking at the economic impact of GMOs  on the poor farmers not whether the stuff is safe or not.

I suggest you convince them to get better yields on their milpas by utilizing science.
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Post by sallys other sister on Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:55 am

CanuckBob wrote:.......And they can here too after the free market (de-regulation) goes into effect (March 1st??). I think these protesters are pissed off at a whole lot more than just this fuel price increase.
If you think that they are upset now, wait until they (USA) starts to charge for us to send money back to Mexico.
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Post by Defarge on Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:10 am

sallys other sister wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:.......And they can here too after the free market (de-regulation) goes into effect (March 1st??). I think these protesters are pissed off at a whole lot more than just this fuel price increase.
If you think that they are upset now, wait until they (USA) starts to charge for us to send money back to Mexico.

Another boondoggle. How are you going to tax it? I currently send money to Mexico via a transfer on the internet. The money I send comes from my bank electronically, goes to a European based company who then transfers it to where every I want after they calculate the exchange rate and take their fee. As long as the transactions are under 10K USD, nothing gets reported. Trying to get transfer companies not based in the US to comply would be tied up in courts for years.

Yeah, maybe they could force a few US based wire services to add a fee, but the internet is a beautiful thing. Once a fee was imposed and collected, people would find a new route. And there would be a huge learning curve in how to do it. This whole notion of restricting individuals from sending cash to Mexico and being taxed to do so is more chest thumping that anything. Not well thought out and a scare tactic at best. Should it happen to mainstream methods, I'd be happy to turn on my friends on how to send cash home with a better, easier and cheaper method. This fee idea would just create new industry.
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:23 am

I would be more concerned that the NAFTA agreement is cancelled and huge tariff's are applied to Mexican exports into the US. This would be far, far more devastating to the overall Mexican economy than blocking or taxing remittances, and more likely to actually happen.

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Post by DaveP on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:17 am

slainte39 wrote:Don't know about tortillas, but a lot of restaurants and eating establishments have increased prices 20%, mas o menos.

That has nothing to do with fuel prices but everything to do with the locals wanting to cash in on the massive increase in the US Dollar.
Not only restaurants but house rental etc. and more.

It will only get worse.

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Post by RichD on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:03 pm

Sounds like free enterprise to me, DaveP.
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Post by brigitte on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:18 pm

"I suggest you convince them to get better yields on their milpas by utilizing science."

RichardD More and bigger is not necessarily better, it depends what you want to achieve.
I ran a vineyard where we wanted to lower the yields in favor of quality.. There is more than yield and higher yield in agriculture

The traditional milpas are some of the best way to cultivate land, no need for crop rotation or lots of fertilizers. It mimics nature and feed whole families, a field of GMO s cannot do that.

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Post by RichD on Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:16 pm

brigitte wrote:...a field of GMO s cannot do that.

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Post by slainte39 on Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:49 pm

DaveP wrote:
slainte39 wrote:Don't know about tortillas, but a lot of restaurants and eating establishments have increased prices 20%, mas o menos.

That has nothing to do with fuel prices but everything to do with the locals wanting to cash in on the massive increase in the US Dollar.
Not only restaurants but house rental etc. and more.

It will only get worse.

Yep, riding the coattails of the exchange rate windfall.

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Post by CanuckBob on Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:03 am

And if/when the USD swings the other way they won't likely lower prices.

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