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This Is An Experiment

Post by espíritu del lago on Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:07 am

And you all are the subjects! Participation is voluntary!

"Being Nice Is In Your DNA" So say the scientistsl.


http://www.livescience.com/19580-niceness-dna-scientists-find.html wrote:The new research, led by psychologist Michel Poulin of the University of Buffalo, suggests that if you have the genes that give you certain versions of those hormone receptors, you're more likely to be a nice person than if you have the genes for one of the other versions
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Since I put this in the Mirador I wonder now long until it gets moved to the Octagon and curiously who will begin with rancor? Just remember that this is all for fun and based on current Science!

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Post by ferret on Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:03 am

That's fascinating!
Makes me wonder if genetic manipulation of prison populations won't be the new "incarceration" of the future.
It can't possibly be that simple.
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Post by espíritu del lago on Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:22 am

There's actually research ... hang on I'll ring the article..
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Post by espíritu del lago on Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:27 am

https://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2458

In laynens terms
https://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2458


There ya go...
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James Fallon, a neuroscientist at UC Irvine who studies the brains of psychopaths, said the new findings are well-aligned with prior observations about serial killers, many of whom seem to behave similarly to drug addicts. In both cases, Fallon said, withdrawal from their addiction "builds and builds and then hits a threshold trigger point, after which they go on a spree to release that 'longing.'"

And as with a drug addiction, withdrawal from killing may cause a buildup of hormones in a part of the brain called the amygdala, "and this very, very unpleasant feeling can only be reversed by acting out whatever the addicting stimulus might be," Fallon told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to LiveScience.
http://www.livescience.com/17983-math-formula-explain-serial-killers-kill.html
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Post by ferret on Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:01 am

Cassius:
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Julius Caesar (I, ii, 140-141)ℹ
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Post by espíritu del lago on Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:16 am

http://www.the-line-up.com/serial-killer-quotes/
http://www.the-line-up.com/serial-killer-quotes/

I'm thinking the death penalty and life imprisonment is a good thing.

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Post by RichD on Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:12 am

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Post by gringal on Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:27 am

Life imprisonment should suffice, if the point is to prevent further evil. However, some folks have always enjoyed a good hanging or burning. Twisted Evil

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Post by ferret on Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:14 am

I'll play the Devil's Advocate...

If a person can't change or benefit from incarceration in a positive way, is there a reason why the taxpayers should foot the bill?
And who would enjoy a good hanging or burning unless you were yourself one of the evil seeds.
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Post by espíritu del lago on Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:37 am

Be a good citizen and support your local government because taxes are good for society as a whole..

Now about the hangings and burnings how will the blind people be able to make an informed decision? Or does it really matter if they can't see it?

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Post by ferret on Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:47 am

That's society as a whole...not society as a hole.

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Post by gringal on Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:06 am

ferret wrote:I'll play the Devil's Advocate...

If a person can't change or benefit from incarceration in a positive way, is there a reason why the taxpayers should foot the bill?
And who would enjoy a good hanging or burning unless you were yourself one of the evil seeds.

Traditionally, a majority of the townsfolk turned out for the hangings and burnings. It's probably in the same class of human inclinations as rubbernecking a car wreck, gathering around a crime scene, etc. Why should the taxpayers pay for life imprisonment? For the same reason they pay for bombs, guns and war in general. Whatever that is. Rolling Eyes

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Post by ferret on Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:18 am

Good point Gringal!
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Post by brigitte on Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:21 pm

Life imprisonment is cheaper than death penalty according to some stuff I have read..Do not know if it is true everywhere as that was about the US..
I remember my mother telling me about one of the last public guillotine execution in France and one of the people she knew walked kms to go to the event several days ahead so she would not miss it.. I guess now you can see a good execution any day of the week on the tv but in those days it was prized entertainment..

In Chiapas nowadays there is always a major crowd for the lynchings as well.. let's face it humans like gore..

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Post by CanuckBob on Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:46 pm

Yep, lots of people watch NHL hockey, boxing and UFC fights.

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Post by jrm30655 on Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:27 pm

My business partner used to say that the one point of the death penalty was "The rate of recidivism is zero". Hard argument to counter

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Post by Clueless on Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:18 am

Yes, Life is much less expensive than executions due to the appeals. I studied this extensively for my talk on "The Innocence Project; Wrongfully Convicted."

As to being genetically inclined to be "Nice," IMO, probably true at our moment of birth (assuming no genetic anomolies/mutations).

I believe where things may change is in the environment; not air pollution, etc. rather than old issue of nature vs. nurture.

Just as in every environment, including but not limited to this board, why is it that some people are usually nice and looking to be helpful, while others seem to take delight in being nasty?

With all "our" training and work in the field, we still don't know that much about our fellow humans.
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Post by espíritu del lago on Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:31 am

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/borderline-personality-disorder/index.shtm

"The causes of BPD are not yet clear, but research suggests that genetic, brain, environmental and social factors are likely to be involved.

Genetics. BPD is about five times more likely to occur if a person has a close family member (first-degree biological relatives) with the disorder.
Environmental and Social Factors. Many people with BPD report experiencing traumatic life events, such as abuse or abandonment during childhood. Others may have been exposed to unstable relationships and hostile conflicts. However, some people with BPD do not have a history of trauma. And, many people with a history of traumatic life events do not have BPD.
Brain Factors. Studies show that people with BPD have structural and functional changes in the brain, especially in the areas that control impulses and emotional regulation. However, some people with similar changes in the brain do not have BPD. More research is needed to understand the relationship between brain structure and function and BPD."

Also see thyroid problems. <<<<This goes hand in hand .Also you can't rule out avanced addiction.
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Post by espíritu del lago on Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:34 am

Also dementia presents as hostility.
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Post by espíritu del lago on Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:36 am

https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=96
Anyone who has seen challenges is an elderly loved one should read this.
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Post by Clueless on Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:51 am

Bottom line here.

A lot of studies, theories and opinion, but truth be known, we really don't know for certain on any of this.
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