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Post by mattoleriver on Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:23 am

"MEXICO CITY – Several creams and oils made using cannabidiol (CBD) are being publicized at the America Expoweed 2017 cannabis fair in Mexico City, at the same time that the Mexican government – for the first time – is providing treatment using cannabis-based products to 11 patients with serious illnesses such as epilepsy and cancer."

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=2442058&CategoryId=14091
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Post by Trailrunner on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:26 am

Good article, thanks for posting it. I was wondering if the ball was still rolling in the right direction and it looks like it is. Also looks like the government will maintain a tight control on it's distribution and use.

Can't wait to be able to legally use this amazing plant and really can't wait to see cancer patients be able to use these medicines and not be forced to use the lethally toxic chemotherapy and radiation. That will be a day to celebrate!
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Post by kiko on Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:51 pm

I think the actuaries for the big insurance companies in the USA focus their work on the mathematical calculation of the amount of time a cancer patient in chemotherapy can survive treatment in relation to the aggregate amount of their insurance coverage for chemo/rad treatment.  Once the oncologist does the math, he can get very close to timing your final chemo/radiation treatment before he admits you to hospice care.  "We extended your life 11 months and we gave it our best shot, but all is good, your insurance carrier has approved an excellent hospice care facility that has had no complaints from its patients in all reviews!"

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Post by Trailrunner on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:34 pm

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Post by Chapalagringa on Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:58 pm

kiko wrote:I think the actuaries for the big insurance companies in the USA focus their work on the mathematical calculation of the amount of time a cancer patient in chemotherapy can survive treatment in relation to the aggregate amount of their insurance coverage for chemo/rad treatment.  Once the oncologist does the math, he can get very close to timing your final chemo/radiation treatment before he admits you to hospice care.  "We extended your life 11 months and we gave it our best shot, but all is good, your insurance carrier has approved an excellent hospice care facility that has had no complaints from its patients in all reviews!"

Makes me so angry! Yet some people can't see it. Here lakeside I've met people who reversed their lung cancer, breast cancer, throat cancer with a huge grapefruit sized tumor, and became aware of many doing the same. A lakeside resident that retired as a US government employee who studied viruses told me to stay alkaline and I won't get sick. She said the government knows it but refuses to tell the people. Greed

Red grape fasts cure cancer. Baking soda mixed with maple syrup cures cancer. I spoke to someone the other day whose grandmother cured her cancer with red grapes decades ago. Lung cancer cured by another lakeside resident decades ago by changing her diet to more alkaline and divorcing her husband who refused to quit smoking and had given it to her. She's in her 90's.

Unfortunately it's going to take more than government controlled CBD oil to cure some cancers. And figuring out what exactly is being grown and people are getting is a whole other problem.
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Post by Fastfox on Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:54 pm

mattoleriver wrote:"MEXICO CITY – Several creams and oils made using cannabidiol (CBD) are being publicized at the America Expoweed 2017 cannabis fair in Mexico City, at the same time that the Mexican government – for the first time – is providing treatment using cannabis-based products to 11 patients with serious illnesses such as epilepsy and cancer."

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=2442058&CategoryId=14091
I just saw this today for the first time.  I seldom go onto this forum.  Thank you for posting this very important article.  So, one thing I noticed it is okay to import, but not sell....how strange is that?  I will have to look up when this fair will be, unless I missed that in the article.  I find it difficult to discuss this topic with people, as their brain has been programmed with falsehoods.
Excuse me, the dates are in the article and have already passed. I just didn't see it the first time.


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Post by ferret on Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:56 pm

You're in the right forum Fastfox if you want to discuss it. There is absolutely nothing illegal about discussions.
Scroll though this section and you will see other information that I have posted.
The pure CBD oil (i.e. with NO THC) will probably continue to be imported until Mexico starts growing HEMP.
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Post by Axixic on Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:01 pm

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Post by ferret on Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:48 pm

As with any kind of medicine, for any kind of illness, for some it works and for others it doesn't. It probably comes down to personal genetics and that will take quite a while to unravel.
Still, when your back is against a wall and you've tried everything else and have nothing left to lose (except your life), it may be worth a try.

I don't have cancer as far as I know but I have lived with Narcolepsy with cataplexy for 31 years now. I started taking a half a grain of rice worth of cannabis oil before bed every night to see if I could boost my pitiful deep sleep. That was November 15th of 2014. I was more than surprised when it eliminated my daily cataplexies and I stopped taking it. Within four days the cataplexy was back and I have been a continuous user nightly ever since with no side effects. A 3 ml syringe lasts me three months and costs 500 pesos. The NORMAL med for this (called Xyrem and produced by Jazz Pharmaceuticals) costs 6,000 (six thousand) U.S. dollars per MONTH.
Put all that in your pipe, smoke it and get back to me.
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Post by Axixic on Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:57 am

ferret wrote:Put all that in your pipe, smoke it and get back to me.

I'm glad it's working for you, but I was specifically talking about cancer and bemoaning the fact that, not only my contrary example, but all of the examples I see online are anecdotal. I would like to see a study that compares survival rates of cancer patients who opt to use cannabis versus survival rates of cancer patients who do not opt to use cannabis. I think that would be instructive and can't figure out why no such studies have yet been published.

Having watched my video, you may note that I am in no way confrontational or disrespectful in what I present. So I hope your quoted comment (above) was intended as a joke rather than confrontational, as its tone suggests.
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Post by Trailrunner on Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:16 am

Axixic, there are few studies like you want because it is illegal to posses the substance so research is either nonexistent or clandestine. At least from the US. However, other countries are not as stupid and corrupt as mine and studies are available. See Chile. See Spain. There are others. Non-anecdotal research results are out there but difficult to find and usually not in English.

Here is Dra.Cristina Sanchez, Spanish molecular biologist, to explain how and why it works, in English. She is a leader in the field and has been studying it for decades and has documented well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1miGzTwK28U
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Post by ferret on Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:43 am

It was a joke Axixic but also a hint that "smoking" mj is not the recommended way to use it for a cancer treatment. Certainly recreationally smoked cannabis is not even in the ballpark.... recommended 1 gram of cannabis oil a day for three months. Interestingly enough, in mj smokers, very few develop lung cancer. Go figure.
You can also look up "Run from the Cure" or "Rick Simpson" on youtube and the three videos put out by Dr. Sanjay Gupta.
BTW, Israel has been doing research studies on mj for longer than any other country.
The U.S. rarely publishes studies done in other countries and the studies that are being done in the U.S. are very few for obvious reasons.
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Post by Axixic on Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:18 pm

Trailrunner wrote:Axixic, there are few studies like you want because it is illegal to posses the substance so research is either nonexistent or clandestine. At least from the US. However, other countries are not as stupid and corrupt as mine and studies are available. See Chile. See Spain. There are others. Non-anecdotal research results are out there but difficult to find and usually not in English.

Here is Dra.Cristina Sanchez, Spanish molecular biologist, to explain how and why it works, in English. She is a leader in the field and has been studying it for decades and has documented well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1miGzTwK28U

None are on-point, though. A simple verifiable study contrasting survival rates of cancer patients using cannabis versus cancer patients not using cannabis. It certainly does not have to be US-based, many jurisdictions allow medical marijuana usage and have done so long enough to provide representative sample sizes. I would think that such a study would be a priority for cancer researchers and I can't understand why it has yet to be done/published. This would seem to me to be Monday 9:00 AM for researchers wishing to investigate the efficacy of cannabis in cancer treatment.
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Post by Axixic on Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:19 pm

ferret wrote:It was a joke Axixic but also a hint that "smoking" mj is not the recommended way to use it for a cancer treatment. Certainly recreationally smoked cannabis is not even in the ballpark.... recommended 1 gram of cannabis oil a day for three months. Interestingly enough, in mj smokers, very few develop lung cancer. Go figure.
You can also look up "Run from the Cure" or "Rick Simpson" on youtube and the three videos put out by Dr. Sanjay Gupta.
BTW, Israel has been doing research studies on mj for longer than any other country.
The U.S. rarely publishes studies done in other countries and the studies that are being done in the U.S. are very few for obvious reasons.

Good point re:smoking it. Thank you.
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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:27 pm

Is that cigarette smokers who also smoke pot that have less incidence of lung cancer than just straight cigarette smokers?

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Post by ferret on Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:37 pm

Pot smokers who only smoke pot and have never smoked cigarettes.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:03 pm

Pot doesn't contain near the chemicals and crap that tobacco does. Breathing car exhaust and other pollutants doesn't directly cause cancer either but I wouldn't tout it as being good for you......

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Post by Trailrunner on Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:49 pm

You're looking for a 'controlled study'. Look in Israel, Chile, Spain
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Post by Fastfox on Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:36 pm

Smoking is not the recommended method for cancer.  There are several ways to consume it, many of which are not commonly known.  I will list what I have learned here:
1. Vaporize
2. Tinctures
3. Edibles
4. Oil
5. Juicing or blending in a smoothie (raw leaves)
6. Suppositories

The recommended method of consumption will vary depending upon the medical condition and patient.  Number 5 (raw) is one that I just recently learned about and is very effective for certain medical conditions.  One really interesting bit of data is that when consumed in its raw form, there is no psychoactive effect as the plant does not get heated.  It is the heat which turns it psychoactive.  Also, I learned in this form, it actually contains vital nutrients for health...

Also, no psychoactive effect if taken in suppository form.

I have learned much in the past year and am happy to share with anyone who is really interested.
Additionally, it is not unusual for someone to use more than one method to assist with their condition as each method of delivery brings results in a different manner.
Anecdotal information I find very helpful as there are thousands of people who have had excellent results.  They are sharing their hard learned experience.
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Post by Fastfox on Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:40 pm

ferret wrote:It was a joke Axixic but also a hint that "smoking" mj is not the recommended way to use it for a cancer treatment. Certainly recreationally smoked cannabis is not even in the ballpark.... recommended 1 gram of cannabis oil a day for three months. Interestingly enough, in mj smokers, very few develop lung cancer. Go figure.
You can also look up "Run from the Cure" or "Rick Simpson" on youtube and the three videos put out by Dr. Sanjay Gupta.
BTW, Israel has been doing research studies on mj for longer than any other country.
The U.S. rarely publishes studies done in other countries and the studies that are being done in the U.S. are very few for obvious reasons.

It is my understanding that it is the additives in cigarettes which actually cause the cancer. I find it appalling that it is legal to sell and purchase cigarettes anywhere, which are proven to be harmful, yet cannabis is outlawed. It's about profit, and not giving a darn about the truth.
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Post by helohfe on Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:24 pm

Looks like a company is going to try and add some scientific merit to Medical Studies on various products. This has been what is needed to foster legitimacy in this area.
Emerald Health Takes a Scientific Approach to Cannabis - CFN Media

SEATTLE, WA, Sep 25, 2017 (Marketwired via COMTEX) -- SEATTLE, WA--(Marketwired - Sep 25, 2017) - CFN Media Group ("CannabisFN"), the leading creative agency and digital media network dedicated to legal cannabis, announces the publication of an article discussing how Emerald Health Therapeutics Inc. (EMH) (otcqx:EMHTF) is taking a scientific approach to legal cannabis that involves developing proprietary products designed for specific medical conditions while building a Scientific Advisory Board with substantial expertise. At the same time, the company has tremendous expansion potential in a climate where many licensed producers are solely focused on increasing production capacity ahead of Canada's legalization of adult use marijuana.

Science-Driven Approach Emerald Health Therapeutics is focused on developing high margin products that are backed by rigorous clinical trials and are uncompromising in quality. Executive Chairman Dr. Avtar Dhillon, MD, is a seasoned executive and chairman of five public life science companies, having successfully led the turnaround of Inovio Pharmaceuticals Inc. from a $10 million micro-cap to a $550 million late-stage biotechnology company.

Members of the company's Scientific Advisory Board also recently made a novel discovery highlighting the potential of tetrahydrocannabinolic acid ("THCA") in treating Huntington's disease and other metabolic, neurodegenerative, and neuroinflammatory diseases. These results were published in the British Journal of Pharmacology in a peer-reviewed article titled, "Tetrahydrocannabinolic acid is a potent PPAR? agonist with neuroprotective activity."

"We are pleased to be one of the first and few companies to offer THCA cannabis oil and look forward to generating human data from clinical research we are planning for this product in the near future," said Emerald Health VP of R&D Frey Garabagi, PhD. In its investor presentation, the company indicated that it plans to begin human clinical trials designed to prove the efficacy of its growing product lineup in treating numerous medical conditions.

New Product Launches Emerald Health also recently announced the release of Island Mist, a proprietary high-cannabidiol (CBD) and high CBD-to-THC ratio dried flower product. The Indica-dominant strain contains 15.9% CBD and just 0.4% THC, which represents a 40:1 CBD-to-THC ratio. The product can be purchased by individuals holding a medical license registered with Emerald Health Botanicals - the company's wholly-owned subsidiary and ACMPR licensed producer.

With the new product launch, Emerald Health Botanicals offers a full line-up of six dried flower products, including four high-THC strains, a high CBD strain, and a combination strain. The firm also provides eight cannabis oils with varying levels of THC, THCA, CBD, and THC-to-CBD ratios. Management believes that one of these products - CBD-50 - contains the highest amount of CBD per milliliter on the ACMPR market today.

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Post by Trailrunner on Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:07 pm

Good posts, thanks.

I agree with you Fastfox, I like anecdotal information too. Especially when it comes from a friend, acquaintance, patient, etc.
Studies often come with questionable or nonexistent funding information.
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Post by ferret on Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:45 pm

This link not only shows 82 studies but separates them by the type of cancer...
https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/82-studies-efficiency-marijuana-against-cancer/
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