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Stabbed and robbed in Ajijic Saturday 10.00 am

Post by Bandol on Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:27 am

A large elderly gringo with dog was attacked by a knife wielding man, slightly cut in chest/neck area and money taken.  Dog also slashed at.  Happened at corner of Pedro Moreno and 16 September.  Robber is tall, thinnish, about 40 years and speaks pretty good English.  Went westward on 16 September.  Helpful men in red garbage truck came in answer to yells and phoned police.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:35 am

Thanks for info. We'll keep an eye out for the scumbag. Hopefully the victim and his pooch are OK.

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Post by slainte39 on Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:39 pm

Pedro Moreno (Aquiles Serdan, south of Ocampo), intersects with Independencia and not 16 de septiembre, which is east of Morelos/Colon, if this is where the attack occurred.

Just so people know where it happened.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:31 pm

I was wondering about that. I thought I knew all the streets that intersected with 16 de Septiembre and hadn't heard of this one.

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Post by Bandol on Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:57 pm

Yes of course it is Independencia after the name change. Sorry.

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Re: Stabbed and robbed in Ajijic Saturday 10.00 am

Post by Clueless on Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:29 pm

Why call the police after the incident? They will probably just say to go to the station and make a report.

BTW, is the Ministerio Publico strictly civil?
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Post by brigitte on Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:50 pm

It SHould be reported to the Ministerio Publico not to the police..

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Post by Marrell on Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:16 pm

This incident happened outside my kitchen window on Pedro Moreno. I heard yelling and opened the window to check...the attacker had attempted to stab both the individual and his dog without success. He did not want the police called..... although somewhat later a nearby trash truck had
already called the police. So I guess that it was in same way reported to the police... I don't believe that the individual pursued the matter.

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Post by brigitte on Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:11 pm

That is the problem.. if people do not put a report at the MP nothing happens. The MP is the one investigating here not the police so if that guy gets caught he will only be charge for the things on record. no reporting no charging the guy who will continue.. Not that anyone will ever be caught...but not reporting continues the old cycle..

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Post by Bandol on Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:45 am

In my opinion nothing would happen even if the victim went to the considerable inconvenience of making an MP report. The original message was posted as a public warning.

At the same time the same warning was placed on Facebook. Within minutes several Facebook users responded accusing the original poster of being a liar, a fantasist, a troll. Some of the language used was very vulgar. None of the persons posting had been within four blocks of the incident and yet somehow mysteriously knew that the incident had never happened.

Fortunately the cut to the victim’s neck was minor and quickly healed. He doesn’t use that rather lonely block to the Malecon any more and walks the dog on a different better-travelled route.

The original poster doesn’t use Facebook any more



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Post by Clueless on Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:23 pm

Having been involved with the Ministerio Publico I can tell you first-hand that they take reports, review them and then pass them on to the detectives, which is a totally different department. I know since I talked to the detectives.

The major problems with reporting something include: 1) How do you I.D. the bad guy? 2) Who in the government is going to do what? 3) In the thousand and one chance they do catch the bad guy, your identity is now known to him and probably his friends. Enough said there.

The only time I would report something would be where there is insurance involved and it's required you make a report.

As for Facebook, if you haven't seen it, go go Google and put in "Dave the Mind Reader."
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Post by brigitte on Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:00 pm

Several years ago I helped the MP .. I agreed to help them when they had an emergency only.. So I got called late sometimes at night and so on , and I can tell you that they have pictures of a whole lot of bad guys they will show you.. You have to describe the perp and then they match the description to some of their pictures.. They have got people and the ones they got all all several crimes under their belt and several denuncias. One time they called me because they were on a dead line to have a denuncia or they had to release the guy. They knew he had attacked someone at gun point but they did not have a denuncia and could not hold the man without a denuncia so I helped them convinced the people who had been attacked to put 2 denuncias..

Without a denuncia the criminal walk freely.. not that they do not do that anyways but it is your duty to report to the MP i..
The 2 denuncia put the guy in jail for a while anyways..

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Post by Axixic on Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:25 pm

Bandol wrote:... several Facebook users responded accusing the original poster of being a liar, a fantasist, a troll.  Some of the language used was very vulgar...

Sadly, this is all too common around here - victim blaming. A couple of months ago, I got mugged in Chapala - in many ways my own fault: drunk, alone, dark deserted street - I might as well have been wearing a sign. I posted about it on facebook as a reminder to others not to become complacent (as I had). I received a fair amount of vitriol from people convinced it never happened who were nowhere near the place at the time.

Such is life Lakeside.
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Post by suegarn on Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:59 pm

Axixic wrote:
Bandol wrote:... several Facebook users responded accusing the original poster of being a liar, a fantasist, a troll.  Some of the language used was very vulgar...

Sadly, this is all too common around here - victim blaming. A couple of months ago, I got mugged in Chapala - in many ways my own fault: drunk, alone, dark deserted street - I might as well have been wearing a sign. I posted about it on facebook as a reminder to others not to become complacent (as I had). I received a fair amount of vitriol from people convinced it never happened who were nowhere near the place at the time.

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So sorry to hear about your experience, Axixic. I hope you weren't badly hurt!

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Post by Trailrunner on Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:14 pm

Yes, I'm sorry to hear that too, Axixic. sounds like you bounced back well.

It is amazing the things people say to people who have been victims of very bad circumstances. They must have a lot of fear.
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Re: Stabbed and robbed in Ajijic Saturday 10.00 am

Post by helohfe on Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:14 am

Please post the "general location" that this occured in Chapala..

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Post by Trailrunner on Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:25 am

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Re: Stabbed and robbed in Ajijic Saturday 10.00 am

Post by Axixic on Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:25 am

helohfe wrote:Please post the "general location" that this occured in Chapala..

On Ave De Riberas between Pepe Guizar and Ave Los Redes. I think it was a circumstantial thing - the guy saw a drunk gringo alone turn onto a dark street and decided to take advantage. He might even have followed me from the bar, I don't know.
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