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Post by ferret on Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:19 pm

Has just passed away at the age of 81. A man of integrity and honour. He will be sorely missed.
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Post by HoneyBee on Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:46 pm

Integrity and honor ? He left his first wife after she had a horrible car accident and started an affair with his now current current wife (kind of like that North Carolina senator).

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Post by Bandol on Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:15 pm

For Heaven’s sake! He was to be greatly admired for so many years of bravery and service.

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Post by Trailrunner on Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:22 pm

This is what he just wrote:
"I made a small place for myself in the story of America and the history of my times," McCain notes, adding, "What an ingrate I would be to curse the fate that concludes the blessed life I've led. I prefer to give thanks for those blessings, and my love to the people who blessed me with theirs. The bell tolls for me. I knew it would. ... I hope those who mourn my passing, and even those who don't, will celebrate as I celebrate a happy life lived in imperfect service to a country made of ideals, whose continued success is the hope of the world. And I wish all of you great adventures, good company, and lives as lucky as mine."
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Post by Carry Bean on Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:40 pm

One of the few politicians who believed in working together no matter the party affiliation. Not many of them are willing to cross the aisle to get things done. RIP

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Post by espíritu del lago on Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:57 am

It would be interesting to read past posts that were written and what your thoughts were then vs now. I'm sure there's plenty of derogatory words.

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Post by gringal on Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:25 am

Nobody is suggesting that John McCain was a saint.  Relative to a few of our current politicians, he's a lot closer to it !!

He was, however, at least ten times the human being as the sleazy one who insulting his status as a hero.

He probably would have been elected POTUS in the past if he hadn't taken the bad advice of bringing Ms. Palin on as his running mate.

R.I.P. for a job well done in your service to your country.

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Post by espíritu del lago on Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:00 am

Agreed.
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Post by ferret on Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:12 am

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Post by gringal on Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:31 am

I think we can add that McCain, as a politician, was definitely
a "Class Act"....as opposed to....


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Post by MexicoPete on Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:48 am

What a great man. He will be missed my most all. Thank you John McCain for your love of country and great efforts to make things better.
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Post by RVGRINGO on Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:21 am

As one of the same generation, it is especially sad for me to see the passing of John McCain; "one of the good guys", who will certainly be missed. He should be an example to all who choose to serve the country, regardless of party affiliation, civilian or military, and even in the media.
Dependability, Honor and Integrity lived within him.

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Post by espíritu del lago on Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:20 pm

"Before his death Saturday, Sen. John McCain had a special request for two familiar faces to give eulogies at his funeral: former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush."

"Bush, meanwhile, who beat out McCain to win the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, also shared a statement praising the late Navy veteran as “a patriot of the highest order.”

“Some lives are so vivid, it is difficult to imagine them ended. Some voices are so vibrant, it is hard to think of them stilled,” Bush wrote. “John McCain was a man of deep conviction and a patriot of the highest order. He was a public servant in the finest traditions of our country. And to me, he was a friend whom I’ll deeply miss.”

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Post by ltollefs on Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:03 pm

One of the Vultures' own passes and you wet yourselves in shameless and, needless to say, unwarranted hagiography. None of these wastes of space attained their respective positions by dint of virtuosity. Some may be less horrible than others, but that's about all that can be said with any accuracy.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson
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Post by slainte39 on Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:15 am

In today's political world, "less horrible" seems like heaven on earth.
Granted, McCain wouldn't look as good if the grading wasn't done on the curve.
But it is, so it is what it is.
Hope springs eternal.......in degrees...LOL

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Post by gringal on Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:16 am

ltollefs wrote:One of the Vultures' own passes and you wet yourselves in shameless and, needless to say, unwarranted hagiography. None of these wastes of space attained their respective positions by dint of virtuosity. Some may be less horrible than others, but that's about all that can be said with any accuracy.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson

Politicians are not elected for their virtuosity, so I think you're being overly harsh. We elect people who we hope will work to get our goals accomplished. Some worked harder than others, and McCain was one of them. The sleazeball in chief hated him for getting in the way of his plan to destroy Obamacare, once and for all. I applaud McCain for doing so.

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Post by ltollefs on Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:07 am

gringal wrote:
Politicians are not elected for their virtuosity.

That is obvious, and not my point. My point is that a politician's efforts and accomplishments and said politician's constituent's goals seem to correlate only when those goals, however tangentially, align with their own, or their master's.
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Post by gringal on Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:34 am

Often true, but tell me how McCain's opposition to Trump's efforts to destroy Obamacare aligned with McCain's interests or "his master's", as a start. My position is that he did so on principle...his own.

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Post by ltollefs on Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:44 am

...with his legacy in clear sight. Being noble is easy when you've nothing to lose.
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Post by ferret on Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:53 am

He bucked the repeal of Obama Care before his diagnosis... and that's not the first time he's strayed.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/john-mccain-republican-in-name-only/
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Post by gringal on Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:01 pm

ltollefs wrote:...with his legacy in clear sight. Being noble is easy when you've nothing to lose.

Geesh....I seldom encounter anyone more cynical than I. You win that title, easy.
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Post by mattoleriver on Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:34 pm

ferret wrote:He bucked the repeal of Obama Care before his diagnosis... and that's not the first time he's strayed.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/john-mccain-republican-in-name-only/
Even a blind pig can find an acorn every once in awhile. I'll give him credit for how he conducted himself as a POW but the rest not so much.
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Post by ferret on Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:56 pm

OH, I get it. We have disgruntled Republicans posting.
As long as you guys toe the party line and not the individual, the U.S. is screwed.
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Post by ferret on Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:23 pm

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Post by gringal on Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:10 pm

That's pretty damning, all right.  I didn't vote for him when he ran for president because he was well known to be a Hawk, and since he was a Republican, I never expected him to vote for matters favored by the Democrats.  However, compared to some of the sleazebags such as the Twitterer and petty child who's been dissing him, McCain was a decent human being whose politics I simply never agreed with.
I have respected a number of people I strongly disagreed with and will continue to do so.  Also, I don't think it's appropriate to speak ill of the dead since they can't offer a defense. (I might change that opinion if the current occupant of the White House suffered a mortal stroke, though. I'm a sinner, too.)

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