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Post by ehg120 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:59 am

Am at a friend's house who has the above router, not telmex. Think I
tried all the numbers on the back to try and connect. Any ideas?
Thanks

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Post by HelperGuy on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:05 am

A third-party router will not work with TelMex's router unless it is set up to be a bridge. If you can see a wireless signal being broadcast, identify which one it is (usually by name and strength), and if it IS a bridge, then the numbers on the TelMex modem for WEP/WPA will work. If it is not a bridge, you will only be able to connect to the TelMex router.

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Post by little italy on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:34 am

HelperGuy wrote:A third-party router will not work with TelMex's router unless it is set up to be a bridge. If you can see a wireless signal being broadcast, identify which one it is (usually by name and strength), and if it IS a bridge, then the numbers on the TelMex modem for WEP/WPA will work. If it is not a bridge, you will only be able to connect to the TelMex router.

I just want to use her linksys to get on the internet, i see her signal but cant log on. There is no
other router here. Thanks

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Post by sparks on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:59 am

Default user names:
•Linksys BEFW11S4, WRT54G: admin
•Linksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Ethernet routers: Administrator
•Linksys Comcast routers: comcast
•All other Linksys routers: [none]
Default passwords:
•Linksys BEFW11S4: [none]
•Linksys Comcast routers: 1234
•All other Linksys routers: admin

If not it may have been changed - email her and ask
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Post by little italy on Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:19 pm

Thanks everyone all is well. Thumbs up

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Post by HelperGuy on Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:40 pm

Please tell us what you ended up doing... in particular because a Linksys by itself will not work, so there is a TelMex modem somewhere.


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Post by HelperGuy on Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:41 pm

sparks wrote:Default user names:
•Linksys BEFW11S4, WRT54G: admin
•Linksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Ethernet routers: Administrator
•Linksys Comcast routers: comcast
•All other Linksys routers: [none]
Default passwords:
•Linksys BEFW11S4: [none]
•Linksys Comcast routers: 1234
•All other Linksys routers: admin

If not it may have been changed - email her and ask
That's a great reference list, but I believe she would have been looking for the WEP/WAP, not logging into the router itself.

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Post by sparks on Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:02 pm

Well the WEP/WAP or whatever can be changed can't it? I always changed the WIFI login on mine.

I've also brought down a few modems from up north and they worked just plugging them in
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Post by tictoc on Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:04 pm

HelperGuy wrote:A third-party router will not work with TelMex's router unless it is set up to be a bridge. If you can see a wireless signal being broadcast, identify which one it is (usually by name and strength), and if it IS a bridge, then the numbers on the TelMex modem for WEP/WPA will work. If it is not a bridge, you will only be able to connect to the TelMex router.
I don't understand why the wifi router would not work being plugged into the DSL modem (don't get me started on modem vs router... Very Happy ) . What is it about TelMex that prevents this from working?

As for the list, I inferred he was offering it up as a way to change the wap password.

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Post by tictoc on Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:06 pm

sparks wrote:Well the WEP/WAP or whatever can be changed can't it? I always changed the WIFI login on mine.

I've also brought down a few modems from up north and they worked just plugging them in
Ya what he said

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Post by HelperGuy on Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:20 pm

sparks wrote:Well the WEP/WAP or whatever can be changed can't it? I always changed the WIFI login on mine.

I've also brought down a few modems from up north and they worked just plugging them in
Yes, that's true, the wireless number may have been changed.

Plugging in a router to a modem: the router usually is set up for PPPoE; TelMex modems are DHCP, so you have to disable DHCP in the TelMex modem and bridge the Linksys, yes? Plugging the router into the modem router's LAN ports may work as a pass-through; may not. I've never questioned it' that's TelMex. It's not like a router is a hub. Beyond that I couldn't tell you in tech terms; I never studied networking.

EDIT: Sorry, mixing up my LAN and WAN ports again...


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Post by tictoc on Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:32 pm

HelperGuy wrote:
sparks wrote:Well the WEP/WAP or whatever can be changed can't it? I always changed the WIFI login on mine.

I've also brought down a few modems from up north and they worked just plugging them in
Yes, that's true, the wireless number may have been changed.

Plugging in a router to a modem: the router usually is set up for PPPoE; TelMex modems are DHCP, so you have to disable DHCP in the TelMex modem and bridge the Linksys, yes? Plugging the router into the modem router's WAN ports may work as a pass-through; may not. I've never questioned it' that's TelMex. It's not like a router is a hub. Beyond that I couldn't tell you in tech terms; I never studied networking.
PPPoE and DHCP don't have any thing to do with each other, well not directly. If TelMex's is not PPPoE than I suspect there WAN is PPPoA but I don't know. Either way the LAN will probably be DHCP for both PPPoA and PPPoE configured modems. You can plug any device that is setup to acquire an IP into a DHCP device. This would be plugging in the WAN port of the linksys into a Lan port on the modem. That is unless TelMex has some strange setup.

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Post by sparks on Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:48 pm

I have a Telcel stick so can't look at my old modem/router config. I assume all modems and routers are the same thing these days ... and the only settings you can change are internal network. How the modem talks to the Telmex network has to be a constant DSL thingy.

You can give static IP's to computers and netcams internally or they can get DHCP but easier with static.

What that has to do with anything I'm not sure ;)
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Post by tictoc on Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:20 pm

Actually DSL modems tend to have at least 3 settings on the WAN (telmex) side. PPPoE (Ethernet), PPPoA (atm), or bridged. I don't know what telmex uses but these are the most common protocols. How this is set depends on your dsl provider (oA vs oE) and or how you want to configure your network (bridged). "Modems" and "routers" are not the same thing. Most dsl modems have a router in them.
Yes you can use static or dynamic (dhcp) on both the WAN and or the LAN (local area network) side of the router. Using dhcp is actually the easiest to setup but can be problematic when trying to communicate with a device. However these days there are services that will allow you to use dhcp.

I too have no idea what it has to do with anything... :)

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Post by HelperGuy on Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:21 pm

After a bit of research I can point to this wiki link to give perhaps a better idea of why high latency and NAT would be the stumbling blocks in hooking up a router to a router. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation

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Post by little italy on Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:44 am

HelperGuy wrote:Please tell us what you ended up doing... in particular because a Linksys by itself will not work, so there is a TelMex modem somewhere.

Called Rod at Laguna net to help. It was a password that I had given regarding the Linksys. My friend entered the password on her laptop and IT WORKED. She was then able to connect. No TelMex involved. It was a good day :)

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Post by Zedinmexico on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:02 am

HelperGuy wrote:After a bit of research I can point to this wiki link to give perhaps a better idea of why high latency and NAT would be the stumbling blocks in hooking up a router to a router. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation

Are we talking about plugging one router into another using a lan cable?? Only way I could get my Net talk VOIP module to work was to plug another
router into the Telmex router. A good reason to do it is to control your wifi if you share. I use the second router wifi while I let my friend next door
use the Telmex wifi which I can turn off when I need the bandwidth. Have had three different routers plugged into the Telmex router with no problems.
Am I missing something? I do have pretty good quality DSL. By the way if anybody has figured out how to make a net talk VOIP module work plugged
directly into the Telmex modem let me know. HG and I couldn't figure out why it doesn't work but if you plug it into another router plugged into the
Telmex router using a lan cable all is fine. Why Why Why?

Z


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Post by HelperGuy on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:22 am

little italy wrote:
HelperGuy wrote:Please tell us what you ended up doing... in particular because a Linksys by itself will not work, so there is a TelMex modem somewhere.

Called Rod at Laguna net to help. It was a password that I had given regarding the Linksys. My friend entered the password on her laptop and IT WORKED. She was then able to connect. No TelMex involved. It was a good day :)
AH! Big difference between TelMex and LagunaNet.

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Post by HelperGuy on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:24 am

I've done other NetTalk modules with TelMex modems and not had the problem that exists at Zed's place. Perhaps the same glitch that prevents it form working is allowing passthrough to the other routers. It is a puzzler.

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Post by tictoc on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:23 am

HelperGuy wrote:After a bit of research I can point to this wiki link to give perhaps a better idea of why high latency and NAT would be the stumbling blocks in hooking up a router to a router. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation

Were I would not classify it as a stumbling block. I do see your point and do agree that the best/ most secure/ fastest speed, way to set up a DSL network would be to put the DSL modem into bridging then set up a security appliance (ASA) router to whatever your provider uses (PPPoA). This is how I have it setup at work. with this setup you have full control of NAT and you reduce latency by removing the additional hop. Also with an asa you are able to control VPN traffic and a hoard of other security measures that are great for small to very large business. But then again, we are all worried about security right.. Rolling Eyes Very Happy If you aren’t, most of the speed items can be done by using any router (linksys) that supports PPPoA on its WAN port and a bridged DSL modem. But then again how many of you know or care about your ping rate??? Any gamers down there...? Very Happy So for the normal web mailer, just plug the one hole labeled WAN on your linksys into any port not labeled WAN or Phone on you Telmex modem and... bham there ya go. No need to worry about NAT or latency. You can serf all the porn you want and never know any difference. Very Happy


Disclaimer: please understand that were my points are factual most of my posts are written in good fun so... razberry Oh and if there are any 60yo + gamers down there, I would be curious to know what you are playing.

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Post by tictoc on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:32 am

Zedinmexico wrote:
HelperGuy wrote:After a bit of research I can point to this wiki link to give perhaps a better idea of why high latency and NAT would be the stumbling blocks in hooking up a router to a router. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation

Are we talking about plugging one router into another using a lan cable?? Only way I could get my Net talk VOIP module to work was to plug another
router into the Telmex router. A good reason to do it is to control your wifi if you share. I use the second router wifi while I let my friend next door
use the Telmex wifi which I can turn off when I need the bandwidth. Have had three different routers plugged into the Telmex router with no problems.
Am I missing something? I do have pretty good quality DSL. By the way if anybody has figured out how to make a net talk VOIP module work plugged
directly into the Telmex modem let me know. HG and I couldn't figure out why it doesn't work but if you plug it into another router plugged into the
Telmex router using a lan cable all is fine. Why Why Why?

Z

Yes we are talking about router to router over LAN. Sorry I can't be of any help with this, I am not familiar with the hardware you speak of. If I were to trouble shoot it, I would look at NAT and or any port forwarding that might be blocking you. If you can, turn off NAT in the modem and see if it works. If not, leave nat off and port forward what ever port/s the VOIP module uses.

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