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stomach parasites or amoebas

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Post by Dr. Sam Thelin Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:16 pm

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brigitte wrote:If left untreated trichonosis can get to the brain. We know of a couple who were misdiagnosed so remained untreated for a while, the husband is paralysed on one side and the wife died. She also had worms in her brain. They never ate pork but ate strawberries that had been contaminated and were not properly disinfected. They lived on a farm near Ocosingo , Chiapas.
 
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"When a person eats meat from an infected animal, Trichinella cysts break open in the intestine and grow into adult roundworms. The roundworms produce other worms that move through the gut wall and into the bloodstream. The worms invade muscle tissues, including the heart and diaphragm (the breathing muscle under the lungs). They can also infect the lungs and brain. The cysts remain alive for years."

... and sometimes they just stay in the muscles and calcified cysts form. This patient went to a GDL hospital for gastic symtoms. She ate undercooked pork for years and this was the result. She did not complain of any muscular or neurologic symtoms.



mi amiga quiere saber, ¿que va a pasar con esa persona?

The person was at a low budget (free) GDL hospital clinic that does not have tomography (to see inside the skull). She had no symtoms of brain lesions. The lesions in the x-ray are not active. The woman was treated for her gastric problem and released. She did not have the money to pay for a CAT scan, and public health will not pay for it without just cause (symtoms). Likely she will continue to eat undercooked pork and continue to add to her collection of lesions until she dies of some unrelated complication.

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Post by Dr. Sam Thelin Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:26 pm

MyHomeSweetHome wrote:
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Do not treat something you do not know that you actually have.  Would you want radiation treatment for cancer every six months just "in case" you have a small tumor somewhere? Confirm that you have something, and confirm what it is first.

Best to avoid parasites. Watch what you eat. If you do not trust fried street cat sold on the corner taco shop, do not eat there.
Wash vegatables with a good iodine-based solucion. Give it time to work. Cook your food 100%. If you must eat it undercooked, make sure it was frozen at -05°C for 4 days,  -15°C for 3 days, or at -24°C for one day

I agree, don't treat something you do not have.  What do you think of your colleagues who recommend a bi annual parasite cleanse living here?  Every doctor I've ever been to does.  If you do, which medication or herbs do you recommend?

Since stool tests come out negative, how do you propose to confirm what one has?  

If there is no anemia, and no rise in white cells, and a stool sample is negative, I would not recommend any treatment unless you want to check for active antibodies against an agent, and it comes back positive.

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Post by arbon Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:08 pm

Dr. Sam Thelin wrote:
MyHomeSweetHome wrote:
Dr. Sam Thelin wrote:

Do not treat something you do not know that you actually have.  Would you want radiation treatment for cancer every six months just "in case" you have a small tumor somewhere? Confirm that you have something, and confirm what it is first.

Best to avoid parasites. Watch what you eat. If you do not trust fried street cat sold on the corner taco shop, do not eat there.
Wash vegatables with a good iodine-based solucion. Give it time to work. Cook your food 100%. If you must eat it undercooked, make sure it was frozen at -05°C for 4 days,  -15°C for 3 days, or at -24°C for one day

I agree, don't treat something you do not have.  What do you think of your colleagues who recommend a bi annual parasite cleanse living here?  Every doctor I've ever been to does.  If you do, which medication or herbs do you recommend?


Since stool tests come out negative, how do you propose to confirm what one has?  

If there is no anemia, and no rise in white cells, and a stool sample is negative, I would not recommend any treatment unless you want to check for active antibodies against an agent, and it comes back positive.

If there is giardia how is it found/proved, and how is it treated? thanks
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Post by Dr. Sam Thelin Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:55 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giardia_lamblia

Everything you ever wanted to know Very Happy 

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