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Re: Let's talk about money

Post by seisdedos on Sun May 05, 2013 12:56 pm

CheenaGringo wrote: Probably will result in more stories of people being screwed and losing money?

And of course the blame will belong to Mexico/Mexicans for not facilitating this latest "entitlement".

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Post by arbon on Sun May 05, 2013 1:22 pm

Volkswagen hasn't introduced the ultra-luxury brands Lamborghini and Bugatti in Mexico (which may only be bought through specialist car dealers in major cities), however Audi and Bentley are having good sales numbers in Mexico.

Audis are very popular amongst Mexican youths and business people. The most successful models are the A4 and the A3 Sportback.
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Post by georgetoo on Sun May 05, 2013 1:34 pm

lucky wrote:With all the new rules in place now (presumably), i'm trying to figure out what my costs are going to be.

(1) If anybody has gotten their Permanente in the past couple of months, how much did it cost (for government fee, i mean, without the cost of a facilitator)?

(2) If you used a facilitator, how much additional did that cost?

(3) Once i become Permanente, then i have to nationalize my car. It's a 2004 Nissan Frontier and from what i'm reading, the nationalization itself at Aduana should cost about 23,000MX. Does that sound right?

(4) Apparently you have to use a broker to assist you in nationalizing the vehicle. How much does that cost?

(5) Once the vehicle is nationalized, you need to get Jalisco plates. Anybody know the cost on that?

(6) Also once the vehicle is nationalized, i will need to change from "tourist auto insurance" which i currently have to Mexican insurance. i currently pay about $370US for a year of full coverage on the Nissan. How much more does Mexican car insurance cost? (My insurance broker said they would apply the unused balance of the tourist coverage to the cost of the Mexican insurance.)

If you know the answer to any or all of these questions, i sure would appreciate your help. This is all going to have to happen within the next two months (my "FM3" expires on 17 June) and I'm trying to figure out how much cash i'm going to need.....and then where to get it!

Thanks for any help you can give me. And I sure don't expect exact figures, but any idea would help. (And, yes, i've done quite a bit of reading and searching online, but i'm currently undergoing daily radiation in Guad and the 3-1/2 to 4-hour round trip drive and treatment cuts into my time and, frankly, i'm exhausted when i get home. Yes, admittedly playing the "poor little me" card!) All I can promise is that when i get this stuff done, i'll keep you posted on how it went if you're interested!

Again, thanks!




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Good luck to you........george






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Post by ferret on Sun May 05, 2013 9:21 pm

Well done George! Not only for your successful taming of the cancer but, in doing so, for also pointing out what is really important in life.
They're CARS people. They get you from point A to point B, come in various shapes, colours, conditions and costs. They are not that important in the big picture.
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Post by casi nada on Sun May 05, 2013 10:01 pm

seisdedos wrote:
CheenaGringo wrote: Probably will result in more stories of people being screwed and losing money?

And of course the blame will belong to Mexico/Mexicans for not facilitating this latest "entitlement".

Yeah, and the same people who are bitching the loudest I guarantee you are proponents of ''American Exceptionalism''. Guys like Mainecoons and Steve from Nebraska are always proclaiming their status of self-made men, and then when they get a lazy curveball thrown inside and tight, their knees buckle and they're bailing out. What a joke.

Fuck all of this. Mexico is offering a permanent status for about $500 US, and all you have to do is drive a MX plated car. No more renewals, no more hassle. To me, it's a gift.

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Post by ferret on Sun May 05, 2013 10:31 pm

I totally agree!
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Post by Rosa Venus on Sun May 05, 2013 11:26 pm

casi nada wrote:Mexico is offering a permanent status for about $500 US, and all you have to do is drive a MX plated car. No more renewals, no more hassle. To me, it's a gift.

EXACTLY. Some people are getting lost in the weeds.

I am purposefully trying to attain Permanente status right now, earlier than necessary, even though it means I'll have to jettison a perfectly functional and wonderful foreign-plated car that brung me to the dance and has a lot of miles left in it. I could have bought a couple more "car years" by getting a Temporal visa, but decided to quit letting the car tail wag the dog.

I decided it made more sense for me to try to grab the Permanente status early in case the rules/requirements change in the next few years. Since the old foreign-plated car I refer to isn't worth very much, and my life in Mexico is worth everything, it was an easy call once I sifted through the details.

It's a matter of running the numbers and the pros and cons based on your current position, needs and wants. Which, of course, is exactly what this thread is about.


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Post by Irish Gal on Mon May 06, 2013 10:49 am

We have a Canadian-plated 1991 Ford Ranger. Is it too old to nationalize?

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Post by Pedro on Mon May 06, 2013 12:05 pm

Irish Gal wrote:We have a Canadian-plated 1991 Ford Ranger. Is it too old to nationalize?
older is better
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Post by arbon on Mon May 06, 2013 12:18 pm

¿So why don't gringos pay import duty on NON-NAFTA cars like rich Mexicans do?
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Post by arbon on Mon May 06, 2013 12:23 pm

arbon wrote:¿So why don't gringos pay import duty on NON-NAFTA cars like rich Mexicans do?

So you say "We already did when the cars were imported to Canada and the US"
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Post by viajero on Mon May 06, 2013 12:25 pm

Arbon,why are you answering your own posts?

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Post by Pedro on Mon May 06, 2013 12:35 pm

i know a gringo that spent $3000 us on the duty for his $15000 jap moto.
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