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Post by Sideways Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:44 am

Don't forget that most of the lake is bounded by farmland. The chemical runoff from fertilizers is of great concern to the health of the lake.

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Post by Mainecoons Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:10 am

windrider17 wrote:Sorry, but that way of thinking is why we are making a mess out of our oceans.  Islands of floating plastic waste.  A dead spot in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico bigger than Rhode Island because of pesticides and fertilizers coming down the Mississippi.  Todd Strong(?)'s reports show less polution in this lake than along California beaches, but it won't stay that way if it doesn't get some kind of protection.

I was responding to your post and the one talking about how "big" the oceans are and hence have assimilative capacity. Most people do not understand the difference between raw sewage and sewage that has received primary treatment. The oceans don't assimilate solids well, they do very well with the dissolved organic matter that remains after primary treatment.

And neither are the same as this odious practice of baling solid wastes and dumping them in the ocean which is one of the sources of those floating plastics.

When I went fishing off of Manzanillo last time, we passed through an area of floating garbage/plastic. You are absolutely right that there is a big problem here.

I see floating plastics on the lake, probably most from litter along the shores. At this time of year, all the trash on the streets gets washed into the lake as well.

I was a licensed sanitary engineer for decades. I wouldn't swim in this lake. To each his own.
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Post by CanuckBob Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:46 am

I noticed some lirio washed up on the shores in Ajijic this morning although I didn't see any large floating masses. Has anyone with a view spotted any large masses floating out there?
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Post by slainte39 Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:51 am

CanuckBob wrote:I noticed some lirio washed up on the shores in Ajijic this morning although I didn't see any large floating masses. Has anyone with a view spotted any large masses floating out there?

YES....some

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Post by CanuckBob Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:55 am

I suppose they opened the dams then.
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Post by Mainecoons Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:03 pm

We are way behind in rainfall for August. Let's hope last night was a return to wetter conditions and not just an isolated event.
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Post by CanuckBob Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm

Lets hope they are getting all the rain upriver causing them to keep the dam open for a spell. Thats what really helps.
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Post by SunFan Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:42 pm

I measured 4.4 centimeters overnight on my rain gauge in Chula Vista. That's 1.77 inches for my imperial friends.

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Post by windrider17 Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:36 pm

Went sailing today. Lots of lirio afloat. Got out even with Scorpion Island and there were small islands of it. Before that, it was small (2ft diameter and smaller) bunches from Riberas out.

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Post by CanuckBob Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:23 am

The lake is teaming with lirio this morning. It is the most I have seen in quite some time. The good news is the dams must be open wide. The bad news is we are going to have quite the thick carpet of lirio on the shore when it washes in.
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Post by SunFan Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:38 am

CanuckBob wrote:The bad news is we are going to have quite the thick carpet of lirio on the shore when it washes in.

Yeah but think of the composting possibilities!!!


From my view over the Lake at Riberas the lirio looks like a small island a few hundred feet off shore. Maybe I should paddle out and stick a Real Estate for sale sign on it?

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Post by CanuckBob Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:48 am

Off the Ajijic malecon there are lirio patches as far as I can see. I imagine it is right across from east to west. It will be interesting to see if there is a noticable difference in lake level tomorrow. It didn't look any higher this morning.
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Post by sparks Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:48 am

SunFan wrote:
Yeah but think of the composting possibilities!!!

I hear they've tried that but the smell of it decomposing is too much
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:35 pm

Looked at the Rio Lerma last evening in Ocotlan.  While it used to be packed with the noxious plant noted, it is low again with half of it gone.  Point of interest is that the water level is low.

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Post by slainte39 Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:52 pm

Osoprehistorico wrote:Looked at the Rio Lerma last evening in Ocotlan.  While it used to be packed with the noxious plant noted, it is low again with half of it gone.  Point of interest is that the water level is low.

I thought the Rio Lerma entered the Lake through La Barca....didn't know it even got close to Ocotlan. scratch
The Rio Santiago sources at Ocotlan, could that have been what you were seeing. If so, it's always low, as very little water, if any, is/has/will be leaving the Lake (and it's always full of lirio, more like a swamp).

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Post by CanuckBob Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:34 pm

Your are absolutely correct Slainte. What they saw in Ocotlan was the Rio Santiago.
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:35 pm

Thanks for the correction. There was a flood recently in Ocotlan and the runoff was to go into the river. By now, the lirio is half of what it was previously and there is more mud than water.

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