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Post by kipissippi on Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:26 am

Way beyond anything I've ever heard happening in Mexico. I'm heartsick.
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Post by addtocart on Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:18 am

kipissippi wrote: Way beyond anything I've ever heard happening in Mexico. I'm heartsick.
This, while horrible, is beyond anything you've ever heard? You must be new here.
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Post by kipissippi on Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:16 pm

Sure barbaric stuff...… but there was usually a reason...blood thirsty insanity... but some kind of explanation..pay back, vendetta, turf war, rip off ..or repayment of a rip off.... this has no rhyme of reason.
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:19 pm

Maybe they don't like Mormons and their polyigimus lifestyle. I heard they were selling child brides.......

They are here because what they do is illegal in the USA.

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Post by Gamina on Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:22 pm

Vendetta against the LeBarons in a long-standing feud between the family and the cartels. The LeBarons have a long history of standing up to the cartels and meeting fire with fire. They are not selling child brides, CB! Where do you get this crap? Or are you just anti-Mormon so throw this out there. They are not affiliated with the Church in Salt Lake, the official church of the Mormons.
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Post by ElNido on Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:44 pm

Before leaping to judgement, do look up Evril Lebaron on Wikipedia. No need to blame the cartels.

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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:03 pm

Gamina wrote:Vendetta against the LeBarons in a long-standing feud between the family and the cartels.  The LeBarons have a long history of standing up to the cartels and meeting fire with fire.  They are not selling child brides, CB!  Where do you get this crap?  Or are you just anti-Mormon so throw this out there.  They are not affiliated with the Church in Salt Lake, the official church of the Mormons.
I saw the report in one of the news articles. I'll see if I can find it again. Where do you get your crap? And no I don't like Mormons either......

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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:45 pm

ElNido wrote:Before leaping to judgement, do look up Evril Lebaron on Wikipedia. No need to blame the cartels.
Here's a link to it. Nice people......

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ervil_LeBaron

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Post by Gamina on Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:44 pm


The Church in Salt Lake disallowed polygamy in the 1890s. The "sources" you cite are about sects that are NOT part of the official Church even though they are called Mormons by others, certainly not themselves. They don't associate themselves with the Church because they feel the Church is wrong about disallowing polygamy and they believe in the active living of the doctrine.
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Post by Gamina on Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:45 pm

CanuckBob wrote:
ElNido wrote:Before leaping to judgement, do look up Evril Lebaron on Wikipedia. No need to blame the cartels.
Here's a link to it. Nice people......

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ervil_LeBaron

Ervil went off the deep end and killed or had killed many members of his family. He was not a righteous leader even in the eyes of members of his church. He is an aberration within the LeBaron family.
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Post by Gamina on Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:47 pm

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Gamina wrote:Vendetta against the LeBarons in a long-standing feud between the family and the cartels.  The LeBarons have a long history of standing up to the cartels and meeting fire with fire.  They are not selling child brides, CB!  Where do you get this crap?  Or are you just anti-Mormon so throw this out there.  They are not affiliated with the Church in Salt Lake, the official church of the Mormons.
I saw the report in one of the news articles. I'll see if I can find it again. Where do you get your crap? And no I don't like Mormons either......

Saying you don't like Mormons is like saying you don't like black people. Everyone bleeds red and wants the same things for their families. We all belong to the family of Man. Are you a bigot?
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Post by kipissippi on Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:06 pm

I still can't believe they were the target. Why would "whoever" target women, children and babies? It makes no sense. Whoever did it will be the villains to....EVERYONE from this point on. There is no honor in slaughtering the innocent. It was either a mistake or an act of insanity.
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Post by Gamina on Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:08 pm

The cartels have a vendetta against the LeBarons because they have stood up to the cartels, even with guns. The cartels are vicious and don't care if it children or women they kill. They are sending a message.
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Post by brigitte on Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:07 pm

The cartels kill women and chldren to send a message to the people who survive.. They are ruthless
They were 8 people remember the 43 in Guerrero and the thousands others who have been killed over the years.
Kip that is not the worse that has been done, just  because they are Americans  does not make it worse than all the other horrors that the cartels have commited.. Those mormons are at war with the cartels ..that does not justify anything but you have to keep it in perspective.
It is just another horror in the list of thousands...

Trump should worry about all the weapons that are sold to Mexicans and cartels instead of opening his big mouth to the President of Mexico.

What happened to these people is horrible and sad but not different from what happened to the poor woman who was on a bus when the cartels set it on fire in Guadalajara, killng the baby and eventually killng her after numerous surgeries..

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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:14 pm

Sounds as though they are a cult, not Mormons. I agree with Brigitte that what happened is horrible but no different from what has happened to so many others in Mexico. Just because they are white does not make the crime against them worse.
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Post by Gamina on Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:51 pm

They are not "Mormons" as in from the church in Salt Lake. They are an off-shoot with different doctrine.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:24 pm

Gamina wrote:They are not "Mormons" as in from the church in Salt Lake.  They are an off-shoot with different doctrine.

If they are not Mormons don’t call them Mormons. Neither are they an “off-shoot.” Call them the LaBaron cult. It would be more accurate.
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Post by Gamina on Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:39 pm

Correct.
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:45 pm

Gamina wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:
Gamina wrote:Vendetta against the LeBarons in a long-standing feud between the family and the cartels.  The LeBarons have a long history of standing up to the cartels and meeting fire with fire.  They are not selling child brides, CB!  Where do you get this crap?  Or are you just anti-Mormon so throw this out there.  They are not affiliated with the Church in Salt Lake, the official church of the Mormons.
I saw the report in one of the news articles. I'll see if I can find it again. Where do you get your crap? And no I don't like Mormons either......

Saying you don't like Mormons is like saying you don't like black people.  Everyone bleeds red and wants the same things for their families.  We all belong to the family of Man.  Are you a bigot?
Yes, I am a bigot towards most religions and cults. You sound like a "Saturday morning" door knocker .....don't knock on my door.

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Post by Gamina on Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:48 pm

Glad to know where you stand on bigotry. You wear it like a badge of honor.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:52 pm

Gamina wrote:Glad to know where you stand on bigotry.  You wear it like a badge of honor.

Yeah, because the religious are not at all bigoted ever.
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Post by brigitte on Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:26 pm

I call these people mormons because that is what the paper calls them. The Church of the Latter Saints has outlawed polygamy and these people are polygamists and therefore if mormons are excomunicated so it is like calling a Protestant "Catholic" but in the whole picture they stemmed from the same chuch or belief and than separated...not that mportant in that story

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Post by slainte39 on Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:37 pm

CanuckBob wrote:
Gamina wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:
Gamina wrote:Vendetta against the LeBarons in a long-standing feud between the family and the cartels.  The LeBarons have a long history of standing up to the cartels and meeting fire with fire.  They are not selling child brides, CB!  Where do you get this crap?  Or are you just anti-Mormon so throw this out there.  They are not affiliated with the Church in Salt Lake, the official church of the Mormons.
I saw the report in one of the news articles. I'll see if I can find it again. Where do you get your crap? And no I don't like Mormons either......

Saying you don't like Mormons is like saying you don't like black people.  Everyone bleeds red and wants the same things for their families.  We all belong to the family of Man.  Are you a bigot?
Yes, I am a bigot towards most religions and cults. You sound like a "Saturday morning" door knocker .....don't knock on my door.

I like your "cult" and would join anytime.   A cult that is bigoted against cults.
Mormons had a long history of saying they didn´t like black people.
Defending this LeBaron cult is really defending the indefensible.  They seem to have as many scores to settle amongst themselves as they do with the drug cartels.

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