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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:08 am

Does the SAT hospital do these?

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Post by Jreboll on Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:56 am

By the way, do they have Cologuard? Supposedly only a stool sample is needed but it has to be done more frequently.

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Post by ferret on Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:02 am

Cologuard is only a test for occult (hidden) blood and that test has been around for flippin' ever. It is not a replacement for colonoscopies.
That said, I consider the colonoscopy to be very limited in the detection of colon cancer because it ONLY covers the large intestine NOT the small intestine. The small intestine is where my hubby's tumour was located and it was only discovered after a cat scan... but the five colonoscopies he had showed boodiddleysquat.
You have now been warned.
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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:39 am

Which means you need to get a colonoscopy AND an endoscopy to be thorough.

Can't answer your ? Bob, call them. Or use a big better hospital in Guadalajara. My doc, Juan Pablo Loza in Chapala, took me to his teaching hospital where the Chief of Staff GI did the procedure. Good experience - well, . . .all things considered.
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Post by ferret on Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:07 am

To be thorough yes and he had both BUT an endoscopy doesn't cover much of the small intestine if at all.

What is the length of an endoscope?
Duodenoscopes are side-viewing endoscopes designed primarily for ERCP. They are available in standard and therapeutic versions and have variable insertion tube lengths (1235-1250 mm) (125 cm), insertion tube diameters (7.5- 12.1 mm), and channel sizes (2.0-4.8 mm).

What is the length of a colonoscope?
165 cm
We reviewed 195 colonoscopies to determine whether procedure efficiency differed with the use of an intermediate-length (135 cm) colonoscope compared with a long (165 cm) colonoscope.

In humans, the small intestine is about 6 meters or 20 feet long and the large intestine is about 1.5 meters or 5 feet long. The gastrointestinal tracts of the Chimpanzee, Orangutan, and adult human and a human fetus were studied and compared by Stevens and Hume in 1995.

https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/AnneMarieThomasino.shtml
Therefore, the length of the entire human intestine can range from 7.5 to 8.5 meters (25 to 28 feet).

Doesn't matter which end you go from, the scopes simply don't cover the WHOLE of the intestines. So, I repeat, if you have a problem and you've had both an endoscopy and a colonoscopy which show NOTHING but your problem is ongoing, it is worth your money and time to get a cat scan done. It just may save your life.


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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:24 am

There may be another option, CB. We had a pt who was highly suspicious for colon cancer and didn't want to do a colonoscopy but found a place in Guad where he was able to get a non-invasive scan that showed him to be negative. That was a few years ago and he is alive and well. I'm in touch with him and can find out the details jf you want, CB.
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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:03 pm

I called them and yes they do. $12K to $18K pesos. Not sure why the huge variance. Maybe if they have to do something while they are in there it is the higher price?

This isn't for me and has nothing to do with cancer.

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Post by Jreboll on Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:11 pm

I’m glad this was brought up because I was supposed to pick up a Cologuard this week but after reading up on it I’ll just go ahead with the colonoscopy.

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Post by CHILLIN on Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:54 pm

Dr. Daniel Briseno, Quality Care does them at SAT or for 1,000 pesos less in Guadalajara. His brother is cardiologist Dr.Hector Briseno. He completed his specialty training, then another two years, a total of 4 years in CDMX. He is smart and professional. In B.C. they would only give you a free colonoscopy if the Cologard test is positive, or have a family history.
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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:25 pm

We were quoted 20K to get it done in GDL.

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Post by K2tog on Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:56 pm

CanuckBob wrote:Does the SAT hospital do these?

Yes they do. The doctor comes in usually on Tuesdays and you make the appointment with either the admissions desk or with Dr. Garcia. Dr. Garcia will give you the script for what to use to"prep" and will make the appointment for me. The gastroenterologist speaks perfect English is very professional, will show you a one page image of your colon before you leave. Very positive experience.

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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:28 pm

Thanks for the additional info. Much appreciated.

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Post by NoVaDamer on Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:55 pm

CBob, I did a blog post on my wife's experience with a colonoscopy at the new hospital in SAT:

http://pat-the-expat.com/2019/08/18/medical-costs-up-close-personal/

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:37 am

Thanks.

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Post by Wide Sky on Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:45 am

Trailrunner wrote: My doc, Juan Pablo Loza in Chapala, took me to his teaching hospital where the Chief of Staff GI did the procedure. Good experience - well, . . .all things considered.
I use JP also; had both done in September cost about $15k but that included JP obtaining the 'yucky' stuff, driving me to GDL, sitting in on the procedure, obtaining the results and driving back. A biopsy was also taken which I then took to a lab lakeside.

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Post by Jreboll on Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:48 am

A colonoscopy is an endoscopy of the colon

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Post by Tday on Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:42 am

CB , you back in town ? Welcome home.

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Post by CanuckBob on Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:49 am

Yep. Thanks.

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