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Post by Jreboll Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:11 am

This morning there are 2143 cases in Mexico and recovered patients is a higher percentage than most other nations and mortality rates are lower. The numbers don’t make sense so I think they are making them up just like China did.

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Post by CanuckBob Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:20 am

Covid19info.live shows 634 recovered and a death rate of 4.4%. That rate isn't lower than most. The average is 5.5% but those numbers are skewed by a few double digit death rate countries.

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Post by Jreboll Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:47 am

My concern is the actual numbers. Those other countries started sooner and Mexico is a late starter so the recovery rate should lag more.

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Post by gatosigi Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:41 am

https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/06/conferencia-5-de-abril/
Sunday's update from Dr. López-Gatell. Itś in Spanish but in the first part there are lots of graphics to see. Puebla and Tabasco show larger numbers than I noted in my post above. The updates have also been carried on Foro TV (Televisa) www.forotv.mx   and Milenio www.milenio.com at 7 PM.

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Post by CanuckBob Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:24 am

Jreboll wrote:My concern is the actual numbers. Those other countries started sooner and Mexico is a late starter so the recovery rate should lag more.

True but China had a fast climbing recovery rate too. If you believe their numbers. Mexico may have started way sooner than we think.

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Post by brigitte Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:06 pm

The fact seems to be that the more information we get about the virus and the more we realize we know nothng..

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Post by CanuckBob Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:01 pm

Well my biggest concern is our area and I hope the local authorities are up front when it hits here. There really shouldn't be anything to hide since they are already discouraging visitors to come here. I know they don't want to cause panic but IMO a little panic will keep people in place. I'm using a mask whenever I go out but I still see many (both gringos and Mexicans) who are not. It definitely appears now that no one is safe. It doesn't discriminate on age like was first thought. It does seem to kill more men than women.

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Post by SunshineyDay Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:17 pm

And it appears they are re opening the tianguis. That will be interesting?

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Post by CanuckBob Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:38 pm

Crazy. Hopefully business is so slow it won't be worth it. Letting people gather in those tightly packed spaces is nuts this soon into the game. Some vendors go into the abastos in Guadalajara. That is like Wuhans wet market in some areas there.

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Post by Trailrunner Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:06 pm

Yes.
If they start up the tianguis again it will be due to public pressure. It's the cheapest place to buy food and people will flock to it again.
Where did you hear that, SD? I havent seen anything . . .
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Post by SunshineyDay Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:18 pm

Sorry I can't copy the link. It is on the Chapala gov site. Also on the TOB. There is a copy of the notification.

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Post by Trailrunner Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:30 pm

Bummer. Thanks.
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Post by slainte39 Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:33 pm

Why are so many people bung up on accurate numbers, could be 10,20, or 50 pct. higher but does that change anything about how we are supposed to go about our daily lives right now. I don´t know how anyone, and I mean anyone, could have totally accurate figures with all the intangibles and possible reporting errors that could occur from different parts of the country.
You are asking for the impossible.

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Post by CanuckBob Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:59 am

Mexico is reporting 2439 confirmed cases this morning. 125 deaths. That's a rise of almost 300 since yesterday. It has doubled in the past week which is following in the footsteps of many other countries which doubled every week or less.

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Post by CanuckBob Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:01 pm

Here are the global numbers and the top infected countries.

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Post by Jreboll Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:18 pm

Here’s a CNN report on coroners being unable to determine the cause of death of the bodies they receive because tests are unavailable.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/06/health/coronavirus-coroners-uncounted-deaths-invs/index.html

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Post by Trailrunner Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:20 pm

Read a few personal reports this morning but chose not to provide links as it is depressing and the reports are available elsewhere if you want to dig.

Recap:

Radiology Tech friend on the front lines says virus pt's xrays show patchy infiltrates and what looks like ground glass.

Many states, including Jalisco, are reporting attacks on health-care workers in uniform. Docs, nurses, etc. Hospitals advising not to wear uniforms in public. Didn't see anything as bad as Ecuador.

NYC has so many dead that normal services are no longer able to provide. Bellevue, and other hospitals, have 18 wheelers parked out back full of cadavers with no way in the works to deal with them.
A woman wrote that one family in her apt building had a family member die and can't get rid of the body. There are children in the apartment. They called funeral homes, the ones who actually answered the phone said they were full and not able to help. Crematorium not answering the phone getting voice mail. Repeated calls to the police were answered with they couldn't help and had no solutions for the family.

God bless NYC.
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Post by Jreboll Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:51 pm

This is where the press can be proactive and show readers that we are all in this together and we all have to do our part. There are many ways to bring out patriotism in the citizens of Mexico and television and the press should be at the forefront of this.

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Post by CanuckBob Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:10 am

Mexico is reporting 2785 confirmed cases this morning.

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Post by CanuckBob Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:25 pm

With the US closing in on half a million confirmed cases they are lightyears ahead of any other country. Why is that. Do half still believe it is a hoax and not taking it seriously?
They have almost 1/3 of the entire worlds infections.

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Post by Jreboll Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:03 pm

I don’t understand it either. They have high concentration of population but so does Mexico City and MC hasn’t taken off like I would have expected.

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Post by gringal Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:06 pm

CanuckBob wrote:With the US closing in on half a million confirmed cases they are lightyears ahead of any other country. Why is that. Do half still believe it is a hoax and not taking it seriously?
They have almost 1/3 of the entire worlds infections.

Meanwhile, Trump's "advisors" on Fox news are reportedly encouraging him to end the closures and open up the economy.
Oy!

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Post by brigitte Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:59 pm

Well they may have 1/3 of the world infection.. they may be doing ore tests.. Each country has their own protocol so it is hard to compare.. I believe Mexico is under reporting not because they want to cbe low but because they do not test people.. France also does not test people unless they are seriously ill or have some conditions... It is very hard to compare.

In San Cristobal de las Casas, the Real de Guadalupe andador was empty today 3 restaurants were opene and they had about 10 customers between the 3. no masks of course. The other andador had more people but it was also pretty empty. The indigenous were selling fabric masks.. I think their Chinese cnnections moved from the ugly handbags to masks but no one was buying or wearing them.. A few more people are wearing masks.. but it is far away from the majority.
In the indigenous market next to my house they were much more people and still very few masks.
The cases are gong up ..slowly but surely.

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Post by Jreboll Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:08 pm

This web site seems to tell it like it is. At the top it writes of a hospital in Baja that has 42 workers testing positive for corona.
https://alertachiapas.com/

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Post by CanuckBob Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:26 pm

Mexico likely has higher numbers than reported but we still aren't hearing any reports of overrun hospital's or morgues like we see in the countries that are truly swamped.

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Post by Jreboll Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:28 pm

Someone mentioned on the OB that doctors are going on WhatsApp to express their frustrations and unable to report anything going against the government narrative.

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