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49 found dead near Monterrey

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Post by CanuckBob Mon May 14, 2012 10:08 am

Retaliation for the recent events here?

http://www.unbconnect.com/component/news/task-show/id-76483

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Post by juanrey Mon May 14, 2012 10:15 am

CanuckBob wrote:Retaliation for the recent events here?

http://www.unbconnect.com/component/news/task-show/id-76483


I might have misunderstood, but I thought this was also done by the same cartel, not in retaliation.
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Post by Trailrunner Mon May 14, 2012 10:23 am

That's what I thought too.

All designed to be a Mother's Day presentation.
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Post by johninajijic Mon May 14, 2012 10:35 am

CanuckBob wrote:Retaliation for the recent events here?

http://www.unbconnect.com/component/news/task-show/id-76483


Didn't take long for this news to get on here. I just heard it on FOX news about a half hour ago.

Last night on FOX news at 6:00 PM, they carried the story of the 18 dismembered bodies outside GDL. It was a short piece.
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Post by CheenaGringo Mon May 14, 2012 10:46 am

From BORDERLAND BEAT:
"But it is apparently the find in Jalisco state five days ago of 18 individuals butchered and stuffed into two SUVs that information came out describing a spectacular plot for a massive Mother's Day massacre.

May 10th is traditionally Mothers Day in Mexico. In the United States, this year Mothers Day is May 13th.

According to a press account on the website of La Prensa news daily by reporter Elizabeth Ibal, two SUVs were found in Ixtlahuacan de los Membrillos municipality just south of Guadalajara city near the Querencias break leading to El Rancho Querencias with the bodies stuffed inside. A warning was left to El Chapo, which said, in part, that the dead were an example of what will happen to those who help the Sinaloa Cartel in Jalisco state.

Jalisco state underwent a change early last March when a Mexican Army detachment detained two of the remaining top leaders of the Jalisco Nuevo Generacion drug cartel, Erick Valencia Salazar, AKA El 85, and Nemesio Oseguera, AKA El Mencho...............

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/05/cadereyta-massacre-was-part-of-los.html#more

If I am following the line of thought in this article correctly, it would appear that both incidents may be tied together rather than being retaliation?

In answer to John's comments:
This story was all over the news yesterday but the numbers kept changing throughout the day. The initial reports had body counts in the 30's and then jumped to the high 60's and then finally settled at 49. I thought about posting about the incident but held off because it seemed to be too fluid to make a post that had any accuracy.

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Post by CanuckBob Mon May 14, 2012 12:51 pm

Well the article indicates that Monterrey is Zeta territory and Guadalajara is Sinaloa territory. They are calling it "tit for tat". I took the message "100% Zeta" to indicate that all the dead were Zeta's or Zeta sympathizers. Guess we will hear more as time passes. I do hope I am wrong as that may mean another retaliatory strike in this area.
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Post by casi nada Tue May 15, 2012 9:40 am

CanuckBob wrote:Well the article indicates that Monterrey is Zeta territory and Guadalajara is Sinaloa territory. They are calling it "tit for tat". I took the message "100% Zeta" to indicate that all the dead were Zeta's or Zeta sympathizers. Guess we will hear more as time passes. I do hope I am wrong as that may mean another retaliatory strike in this area.

No, the Zetas are the ones who killed the victims.

This from Informador: El Gobierno de Nuevo León confirmó que la autoría del multihomicidio son “Los Zetas”, cártel que dirige Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano, alias “El Lazca”. Los cuerpos fueron arrojados en un perímetro de 15 metros y había una mensaje contra un cártel contrario, aunque las autoridades no revelaron el contenido del mismo.


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Post by Smartalex Tue May 15, 2012 10:52 am

You need a scorecard to keep the players straight. The main players are the Zeta and the Sinaloa cartels. They are at each others' throats...literally. Neither of them are prominent in Jalisco. Instead, they have local allies. The Milenio cartel is aligned with the Zetas and the New Generation cartel is aligned with Sinaloas. The recent killings here were carried out by a Milenio cell under ordrs from their Zeta allies as a coordinated retaliation (along with the killings in Monterrey) to the hangings of nine Zetas in Nuevo Laredo.
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