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Post by Sherman on Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:14 pm

So far we have covered sheetrock (gym....whatever for the Canadians), and what mortar really is and more ...
One new builder states he uses the solid block that looks like cement.  I don't know the name of this stuff ... but the builder says it is lighter weight than regular red ladrio, and less chance of salitre (could it be true)?  It's good for insulation and noise reduction between rooms.

Comments, information, and/or experience with this stuff ... ??  Good, bad, otherwise?

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Post by gringal on Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:03 am

Sherman wrote:So far we have covered sheetrock (gym....whatever for the Canadians), and what mortar really is and more ...
One new builder states he uses the solid block that looks like cement.  I don't know the name of this stuff ... but the builder says it is lighter weight than regular red ladrio, and less chance of salitre (could it be true)?  It's good for insulation and noise reduction between rooms.

Comments, information, and/or experience with this stuff ... ??  Good, bad, otherwise?

As always, thanks for your expertise (skip the wisecracks)!

S. cheers

I can't look at and feel what you're talking about, but I'm familiar with a light weight building material which uses perlite in the mixture along with cement.  This substance is created by heating certain volcanic sands in a furnace to over 2000 degrees F, at which time it "explodes" like popcorn. It's frequently used for insulation.  It's used in soil mixtures as well as other applications. This response is guaranteed to be wisecrack-free. (Tempting, though.)
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Post by Sherman on Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:58 am

That sounds like the building material ... now I'm interested in it's performance .... and if the performance is good, then why is it not used here more often? I'm guessing it may be more expensive than the red 'low fire' bricks?

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Post by gringal on Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:25 am

Sherman wrote:That sounds like the building material  ...  now I'm interested in it's performance .... and if the performance is good, then why is it not used here more often?  I'm guessing it may be more expensive than the red 'low fire' bricks?

My information is not up to date, but yes, it probably is more expensive since the process of making it is more costly.  That furnace to make perlite eats money.  Performance? Senor Google has several articles on the subject. Here is one:
http://www.perlitecrete.com/

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Post by ferret on Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:43 am

Fascinating material! Thanks for the link Gringal. And here I thought hempcrete was the next great thing but only as an insulating material. Perlitecrete does it all. And, considering its lack of weight may make second floor additions a possibility where traditional construction fails.
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Post by gringal on Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:24 am

ferret wrote:Fascinating material! Thanks for the link Gringal. And here I thought hempcrete was the next great thing but only as an insulating material. Perlitecrete does it all. And, considering its lack of weight may make second floor additions a possibility where traditional construction fails.

That might work for some of these older houses...like mine, which is traditional foundation-free.

Further interesting uses perlite has been put to:  animal feed and cake mix.  Fools critters into thinking they're getting more, but they might as well be eating air.  Cake mix:  Be an ingredient reader.  However, it's harmless enough...like eating puffy sand.  

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Post by Sherman on Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:45 am

so far, thanks ..... my guess is eventually someone will post who has used it in a house here. The contractor with whom I'm speaking has built several houses in the Chapala and Ajijic area using this materials.

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Post by gringal on Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:15 am

Sherman wrote:so far, thanks .....  my guess is eventually someone will post who has used it in a house here.  The contractor with whom I'm speaking has built several houses in the Chapala and Ajijic area using this materials.

Thanks Gringal ...
Can you arrange with your contractor to see the houses he's built and possibly check out the satisfaction level with the owners themselves?

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Post by Clete on Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:28 am

My guess is he is talking about tabicón de jal or block de jal. Solid cement bricks or blocks made using volcanic rock called jal (pumice). It is a very common material used here.

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Post by Canmex 87 on Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:15 am

I think that you are looking for Contec block (Contec building system).

Here is a link. They have a manufacturing plant in Monterrey Mexico.

http://www.concretocelular.com.mx/Concreto%20Celular%20de%20Occidente/Technical%20Manual%20-%20English/Chapter%201%20-%20Contec%20is%20AAC.pdf

There are several homes built with this system in the Lakeside area.

The architect using this system is Alain Signoret Martinez Guadalajara.


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Post by gringal on Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:28 am

This sounds more like what he's describing than the perlite product.

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Post by Sherman on Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:36 pm

I'll run this info past the architect and builder ... thanks.
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Post by ferret on Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:50 pm

No kidding. Life is a never ending opportunity for learning. Wish I had a delete button though because some of it is now obsolete.
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Post by gringal on Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:52 pm

ferret wrote:No kidding. Life is a never ending opportunity for learning. Wish I had a delete button though because some of it is now obsolete.
Live, love, laugh, learn.

If anyone develops a "delete" button, I'll line up for one, for more than one reason! Rolling Eyes

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