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Post by johninajijic Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:48 pm

Sounds like TOTAL BULLCRAP to me too. I will go about my business as usual.

If there was something really serious going on here, you would have seen many Federales in many trucks along with many trucks of army guys. It's not regular Police aqnd transitos that do a house cleaning. You saw that about 4 or 5 months ago.

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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:51 pm

We will see when the night time comes. is when the heat comes, in case a good night to stay home, relax have a beer and lock your door, watch some TV
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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:53 pm

Zedinmexico, I know BlackHorse, 67-68, and yes I hear it every night, retired 1995
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Post by johninajijic Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:59 pm

prorader wrote:We will see when the night time comes. is when the heat comes, in case a good night to stay home, relax have a beer and lock your door, watch some TV

Oh yeah, we should all be scardy cats like you!!! NOT. We will still go out for dinner and return around 8:30 PM. None of our friends are afraid. They're not shooting Gringos and they don't fire at random, just spraying bullets. They have specific targets tied to the drug business.
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Post by Zedinmexico Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:06 pm

johninajijic wrote:
prorader wrote:We will see when the night time comes. is when the heat comes, in case a good night to stay home, relax have a beer and lock your door, watch some TV

Oh yeah, we should all be scardy cats like you!!! NOT. We will still go out for dinner and return around 8:30 PM. None of our friends are afraid. They're not shooting Gringos and they don't fire at random, just spraying bullets. They have specific targets tied to the drug business.


I get your point and don't disagree but I wanted to make a small correction. One of the people killed a couple of weeks ago was a witness so we do have some Colateral damage
going on. I don't think he was in the business. It would have been easy for it to be a gringo. Not trying to be argumentative just letting folks know.

Enjoy your dinner John.

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Post by Chapalagringa Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:07 pm

Do we really think that government officials would tip off a confrontation? After the last capture, there were burning buses etc & there were noticias on the news to stay put so as not to be harmed because of possible retaliation, not much happened after that while Chapala had a check point etc. There's nothing on twitter at this point. Has anyone thought that wisecrack, on TOB, may be just that? Time will tell. Typically confrontations start after dark around 10 p.m. etc...now bad guys have been known to put up signs & get the word out to stay inside...who knows.
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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:09 pm

TOB "Chapala is crawling with "unmarked" white Ford trucks containing Federal police..." sounds like them, they do drive them. You see a bunch of trucks in 1 area, well Police or Narco's, I don't know I guess I can walk down to the highway and sit on the wall and count them and the traffic, but where I live not a lot of highway noise, at 6 PM that isn't normal.
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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:15 pm

johninajijic keep digging that hole bigger to fit you head in, it is here in 1 form or another it isn't going away, it isn't up to you to how good or bad it is going to be tonight or next week. Lakeside has been in Denial for a long time, or good or how bad it is not up to us, but it is here out front and now
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Post by Chapalagringa Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:18 pm

But wisecracker now says police have said to stay off the streets in Chapala too...the story is growing. I believe Betsy, if she says she's seen white trucks but they've been filming the commercial still today so who knows.

It's true that if you ask police, they typically they won't tell you what's going on.
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Post by CanuckBob Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:19 pm

I suppose everyone can deal with it in their own way. As I said earlier they were shooting a major sized commercial in Chapala today. Many film crew and police looked to be involved. They were on the street beside Intercasa's and on the main drag down by the malecon.
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Post by johninajijic Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:20 pm

Zed - Which one are you referring to that was a witness and at where was he killed?
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Post by CheenaGringo Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:22 pm

John:

Would you be willing to meet face to face with the widow and now 4 year old daughter of the former owner of a company we did business with and explain to the two of them that he is dead because he had to have been involved in the drug trade in order to have been killed? In fact, he was driving to a legitimate business appointment in his VW Jetta when he got caught in a crossfire between the military and the narcos.

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Post by johninajijic Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:25 pm

prorader - I never saw Federales driving white pick up trucks. That could be they're there for filming purposes. Federales drive black trucks with gold lettering on the side as do State policece (Estatal) drive black trucks with gold lettering. Their uniforms are different too.

How long have you lived here?
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Post by gringal Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:44 pm

Since the OP on TOB wouldn't name a source, I think it may well have been someone trolling along on moonlite bay. Get a bunch of nervous foreigners even more jumpy. Just what we need.
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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:46 pm

CheenaGringo you surprise me you are human and not a BOT, I agree 100%, Denial is what it is, can you think that this could happen in a local nite club, the slaughter of 15 people in the bar of the Colorado Cypress and Gonzalez Cossio. Everyone wants to hide, every one is afraid to admit that this could happen here come on grow up, this is crazy, there is a war going on and you thing because you live in Lake Chapala and are American, Canadian that you this can't be you in that Bar? Mexico like it not has become a terrorist State. Does it affect us U bet, real estate sales, public businesss, Night clubs, my Mexican wife refuses to go out after dark. Listen to them they know what you don't know. I listen.
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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:50 pm

You are wrong the Fed's do drive white pickup's, that is the ones that work for the Attorney General of Mexico, not the normal Federal police, who drive in blue and dress in blue, there are tactical units that dress in black but not like it was 5 years ago. wrong, wrong and more wrong, 6 years and my Attorney works for the Attorney General of Mexico. Come on they drive what they want, you are mistaken the black trucks with the gold letters are Jalisco State Police only, my guy drives a 2011 MB and wears a 2 piece suit, go figure, there country not mine.


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Post by Zedinmexico Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:58 pm

johninajijic wrote:Zed - Which one are you referring to that was a witness and at where was he killed?


John just leave it please. I was just making the point that collateral damage is happening and that should be important to us.

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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:09 pm

We are OK, just trying to educate you as to what is going on, and from my experenice as what you need to do on a daily basis to stay safe. It is the same thing that people have been telling for years here, don't wear fancy jewels, don't carry a lot of money, live your life in private, not in the public, why do you think that Mexicans live behind walls, they know.
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Post by viajero Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:40 pm

johninajijic wrote:
prorader wrote:We will see when the night time comes. is when the heat comes, in case a good night to stay home, relax have a beer and lock your door, watch some TV

They're not shooting Gringos and they don't fire at random, just spraying bullets.
John you crack me up!What a bunch of nuts.Thank god I live in Guadalajara where we don't have to live in a Dodge City enviornment(sic) like you guys.


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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:44 pm

John you crack me up! why are U quoting me? I damn sure not John. Sorry John the "" came from someone else.


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Post by viajero Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:52 pm

prorader wrote:John you crack me up! why are U quoting me? I damn sure not John.
What did I tell you about posting earlier in the day,do a reread.And remember to face the claymores the right way.

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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:01 pm

U don't know how fast a Huey flys so do I think U know what a claymore is an does?. If U do may be you have no respect for a Nam vet. Ain't no big thing brother, or not maybe your name is Sen Kerry the river boat queen?
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Post by Solovino Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:08 pm

prorader wrote:U don't know how fast a Huey flys so do I think U know what a claymore is an does?. If U do may be you have no respect for a Nam vet. Ain't no big thing brother, or not maybe your name is Sen Kerry the river boat queen?


What was your unit in nam?

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Post by prorader Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:09 pm

Black Horse. 11th ACR. I damn sure know Huey's, and 113's ATV's, and claymores you can say TET broke my Virgenty. Respect that
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Post by Solovino Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:20 pm

prorader wrote:Black Horse. 11th ACR. I damn sure know Huey's, and 113's ATV's, and claymores you can say TET broke my Virgenty. Respect that


I only respect what I know to be true.

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Post by CheenaGringo Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:31 pm

When is it okay to lose your virgenty ?

"Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
When you know how to spell it correctly, or when your married."


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