Gringos getting pulled out of cars at gunpoint and arrested

This could happen to you very soon! A law office in the area has collected money to nationalize cars and they started this year in 2013, they will give you a pedimento dated 2011, obviously fake and a tarjeta de circulacion, also fake but a nice looking fake. They also give license plates that show as stolen, which if you are pulled over they will think you stole the car and you will be looking down the barrell of quite a few guns and lose your car and liberty.

I spoke with the attorney doing this and warned him over a week ago about these papers and that he needed to check the web site and gave him a print out of the page showing other plates were stolen and told him to check all plates given. He was not very nice to me (threatened me) and someone else sent me papers for verification and yes all fake and this stinker has known for a over a week that his people were driving on fake papers and stolen plates and apparently hasn't notified his clients.

Please if a law firm got you fast papers and plates, go to this web site http://www2.repuve.gob.mx:8080/ciudadania/servletconsulta

And enter your Jalisco license plate number in the first space and remember to put the code in the last box and then hit BUSCAR. If the result comes up as CON REPORTE DE ROBO then DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE ANYWHERE OR YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND CAR SEIZED.

That Guy is probably going to go on to be the next Chief Magistrate.....

just say'n is all

Spencer: why hasn't this lawyer been charged and arrested as yet? (Or maybe Hocks is right.)

If he is responsible for all this fraudulent activity.......can he be named so that other people can avoid getting sucked into his scam?

Thanks, Spencer. I guess I know who this is. Disappointing.

gringal wrote:Spencer: why hasn't this lawyer been charged and arrested as yet? (Or maybe Hocks is right.)

If he is responsible for all this fraudulent activity.......can he be named so that other people can avoid getting sucked into his scam?

A very good question and I think Spencer gave you the answer when he said the guy threatened him.

I don't think Spencer (or for sure I) would put ourselves in harms' way by naming the law office, but he did give a way to check and protect yourself.

Also quite possible if challenged, the attorney could have someone in his office doing the front work and the attorney would let the other guy take the fall. Attorney could say he trusted his "worker" and had no reason not to. Plausible denyability.

Spencer,

I am currently in the process of trying to get my car nationalised and Jalisco plates using a lawyer from Ajijic. I realize it would not be smart for you to post this persons name on a public board but could you please PM me and let me know the name of the lawyer you are referring to? It has been almost 6 weeks now that I have been waiting for plates. I'm going into the office tomorrow and will confront this lawyer. If it becomes necessary, will you be available to represent me in some sort of action to recover some of the money that I've given to this guy? Thank you for any help you may provide.

Better yet.... tell everyone who your Lawyer Is and he can PM U if its them....

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Kinda reminds me of The Drivers License Exam...

thru my interpeter...
Question 6
If'n ju drive to the line an ders three more cars at the spot .... do ju
A. Drive thru the line an continue on
B. Stop an drive so that only after da odder guy drives thru the line
C, Wait and then ju drive when the odder guy turns around
D. Don't drive and stop so ju can let the odder guy go in front of ju



A?
No Gringo.... Ezzzz nor A


B?
lol... No Gringo .... Ezzzz not B


C?
I can not tell weeech one ir is Gringo....



OK..... C !!


I passed with flying colors.... The Test Wuz A Breeze....


Ya know.... you might not have near as many problems with the Cops
If only you went out and got a Mexican Drivers License !

Ask for your money back. This guy knows he has given fake papers out and has apparently not warned all his clients.

Why is Everyone so shocked that this might happen here (re:MX/possible stolen car). In 1980 I owned a 1978 Porsche 911SC and lived on the San Francisco Peninsula (Palo Alto). I'm tooling along one day (very white, very blonde, very 30ish) and all of a sudden there's a swarm of police cars surrounding me. I pull over, and am ordered out of the car and down on the ground. There are at least 5 cops, with guns drawn and pointed at cute little ol' me. I really forget what all was said & how it all shook out, but I think between their screaming at me and them finally letting me talk, it became VERY CLEAR they had screwed up !!! My license plate read 9IISC but they had read it as 911SC, which had been reported stolen. Once it was all figured out, there was no group hug, there was no apology, there was no offer to pay for my scuffed cole haan's or filthy liz claiborne suit. Being nieve (& innocent of anything), I believed I was in nom ultimate danger. Actually I think they were more nervous than I was. Maybe it's my age or maybe it's the times or maybe it's the country - I would be rightfully petrified, now. I really thank Intercasa for "being in the loop" and an asset to our community via these webboards and thru his office (eg paid-for into)

Actually, everyone is not so shocked that this might happen here.

Yes, we do love Spencer for his honesty and profound generosity!

papa chango wrote:Spencer,

I am currently in the process of trying to get my car nationalised and Jalisco plates using a lawyer from Ajijic. I realize it would not be smart for you to post this persons name on a public board but could you please PM me and let me know the name of the lawyer you are referring to? It has been almost 6 weeks now that I have been waiting for plates. I'm going into the office tomorrow and will confront this lawyer. If it becomes necessary, will you be available to represent me in some sort of action to recover some of the money that I've given to this guy? Thank you for any help you may provide.

Just out of curiousity papa, how much did he charge? Upfront, and what was the total to be? Was this a deal to be completed without going to the border?

Sorry for your loss, hoping to save others.

Jim W

This deal was supposed to be completed without going to the border. The reason I decided to go ahead and try this was friends used this lawyer to nationalize their car. The deal also was to include Jalisco plates. And in the lawyer's office they showed me plates and the documents they had gotten for somebody else but had not delivered them yet. The money I paid upfront was 33,000 pesos (the total price for the service).

I will try and contact the lawyer tomorrow and let him know that I'm very worried about this deal.

And remember if the person who is giving out fake documents and stolen plates has done this alot, he neither has morals nor brains and probably little money so a holder of the fake documents and stolen plates will have the upper hand in collection as they can exercise criminal action but should not accept promises and not turn over the documents or plates unless cash payment is made on the spot or else they will be just another creditor having to wait in line and the risk of criminal sanctions will not be as strong.