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Post by ra27 Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:20 am

see  www.healthimpactnews.com   "Healthy people vaccinated for flu continue to die."

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Post by Lady Otter Latté Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:05 am

After you read that, you might want to read this and cleanse your palate.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-easy-ways-to-spot-b.s.-news-story-internet/
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Post by gringal Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:46 pm

Lady Otter Latté wrote:After you read that, you might want to read this and cleanse your palate.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-easy-ways-to-spot-b.s.-news-story-internet/

AMEN.

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Post by RoofBob Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:48 pm

Another exclusive article in the Health Impact News is: "Ozone Therapy Curing Ebola in Africa, but Government Banning it in Favor of Test Drugs".

And, my fav.  

"When Biologists Think Like Engineers: How the Burgeoning Field of Systems Biology Supports Intelligent Design"
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Post by Mainecoons Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:52 pm

Lady Otter Latté wrote:After you read that, you might want to read this and cleanse your palate.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-easy-ways-to-spot-b.s.-news-story-internet/

Very spot on and fun to read!
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Post by kiko Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:27 pm

Off topic and too lazy to google, but can anyone tell me if someone who has had shingles as a child should get the shingles vaccination as an adult?
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Post by MexicoPete Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:14 am

As children we had Chickenpox and later in life we might have shingles or herpes Zoster. Shingles can be terrible or in some cases not bad at all. But don't take chances a shingles shot is very cheap if you are over 65 and up North and covered
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Post by Zedinmexico Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:47 am

kiko wrote:Off topic and too lazy to google, but can anyone tell me if someone who has had shingles as a child should get the shingles vaccination as an adult?

What are your odds of getting it again? and how effective is the vaccine? and yes it is my understanding one can get it again. I too was blessed with em at 18 years old.

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Post by Mainecoons Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:46 am

I've gotten flu shots for years when NOB without ill effects or any bad episodes of flu. However, it is true that there are a small percentage of adverse reactions with these vaccines and past performance is no guarantor of future results.

To the best of my recollection, pretty much all of us older folks did the chicken pox thing when we were kids. I plan on getting the shingles vaccine on my next trip north.
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Post by Pedro Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:50 am

the shingles vaccine at lcs is $2300p and is $200cdn in canada so i would imagine it's more in the excited states. i believe they are offering it in brisenos new offices.
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Post by MexicoPete Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:15 pm

Pedro the shots are expensive if you have to pay. But in my case, look at my age and my picture and you can see I am way over 65. So when up north, with Medicare and secondary insurance I paid less than $50

Correct me if I am wrong but if you live part time in Canada each year can be covered too and you would pay much less as well.
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Post by CanuckBob Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:53 pm

Canadian medical plans do not usually cover any "elective" vaccinations such as flu shots. I imagine shingles is in the same category. Although I am not sure if that includes seniors.
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Post by MexicoPete Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:25 pm

Although I would love to be your age, Bob, we seniors get a lot paid for. Last fall in Seattle, I got a free flu and a free pneumonia shot and as I posted above, several years ago, they paid for the majority of my Shingles shot. I don't exactly remember how much I paid for my share of the Shingles shot but is was $50 or less.

And although you are not forced to get a flu shot, it's not considered elective up here. They want everyone to get one. (Not that it is helping that much this year, I read)
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:33 pm

You are right about the flu shot this year, Pete. Some years they guess better when anticipating the strain that will take off. It is no secret that this year's batch is just 24% effective. I suppose for people in high-risk categories that reduction in risk is worth it.
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Post by Pedro Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:36 pm

Pedro wrote:the shingles vaccine at lcs is $2300p and is $200cdn in canada so i would imagine it's more in the excited states. i believe they are offering it in brisenos new offices.
heard this from a couple who visited from canada this week and went to lcs and noted and commented on the cost in alberta. both are seniors.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:40 pm

"Last fall in Seattle, I got a free flu and a free pneumonia shot and as I posted above, several years ago, they paid for the majority of my Shingles shot. I don't exactly remember how much I paid for my share of the Shingles shot but is was $50 or less."

Thank you, Pete. Best to take advantage of all services for seniors while you still have them up there.
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Post by nthensome Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:09 pm

Flu kills people, not the vaccine. Unfortunately many people we are seeing with the flu this year did receive their shots. Hopefully this does not deter people next year from getting vaccinated and trying to outsmart the flu virus for another season. It is really something you want to avoid at all costs...if you've been afflicted you know.

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Post by MexicoPete Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:23 pm

Pedro: why not use Google.ca and in your "Public Health Agency of CA, go to Public Funding for Influenza Vaccination by Province/Territory (as of September, 2014)

OR        Go direct to the link shown below.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/ptimprog-progimpt/fluvacc-eng.php

It will help explain to you the rates in your country. It would appear that Canada has a great plan

Then do the same for Shingles. It aint bad
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Post by Pedro Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:06 pm

MexicoPete wrote:Pedro: why not use Google.ca and in your "Public Health Agency of CA, go to Public Funding for Influenza Vaccination by Province/Territory (as of September, 2014)

OR        Go direct to the link shown below.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/ptimprog-progimpt/fluvacc-eng.php

It will help explain to you the rates in your country. It would appear that Canada has a great plan

Then do the same for Shingles. It aint bad
what for-i don't go to canada for medical treatment and not only that-i don't doubt the veracity of my friends who actually live in alberta and found out that it was roughly the same for "shingles"[medical name -"herpes zoster"] at lcs as it would cost them in alberta.
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Post by Fastfox Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:36 pm

Zedinmexico wrote:
kiko wrote:Off topic and too lazy to google, but can anyone tell me if someone who has had shingles as a child should get the shingles vaccination as an adult?

What are your odds of getting it again? and how effective is the vaccine? and yes it is my understanding one can get it again. I too was blessed with em at 18 years old.

Z

Well, three people in my bible study class got shingles and all three got the vaccine.  We will not get this vaccine.  To quote a doctor "it's all about the terrain" when it comes to illnesses.  Your body and general health are the terrain.  Doctor's opinion was also that it's a risk not worth taking as there aren't enough people getting to justify the risk of a vaccine.  The drug companies love selling these things.  Do your own due diligence....
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