Black & White Coffee Ajijic Plaza, soon to be no more....
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Black & White Coffee Ajijic Plaza, soon to be no more....
It has been a long time coming, Black and White Coffee is on their last legs. A couple days ago the manager Diego quit working there and another worker tuned in their one week notice yesterday.
It seems the owner Lisa (Diego’s sister) has not been paying the workers like the law says for a few years now. No Christmas bonus, no 2x’s for Federal holidays and paying only 16 peso and hour. On 16 hour days Lisa only pays for an 8 hour day.
What finally done it was when Lisa started taking the tips to buy cups and plates for the coffee shop and then started deducting money from the workers pay to buy other things for the store. She started telling the workers they need to buy the bread, ham and cheese for the sandwiches they sell out of their own money.
Two months ago Lisa got a loan from a man and refuses to pay him back so he come into the coffee shop and said he will be taking over the ownership for nonpayment.
It sounds like most other shops in Mexico, it’s hard to make a living. But when the owner walks into the store and takes money out of the till to buy a $2,000 (American) dog for her child and don’t pay the workers or her bills this is inevitable.
It seems the owner Lisa (Diego’s sister) has not been paying the workers like the law says for a few years now. No Christmas bonus, no 2x’s for Federal holidays and paying only 16 peso and hour. On 16 hour days Lisa only pays for an 8 hour day.
What finally done it was when Lisa started taking the tips to buy cups and plates for the coffee shop and then started deducting money from the workers pay to buy other things for the store. She started telling the workers they need to buy the bread, ham and cheese for the sandwiches they sell out of their own money.
Two months ago Lisa got a loan from a man and refuses to pay him back so he come into the coffee shop and said he will be taking over the ownership for nonpayment.
It sounds like most other shops in Mexico, it’s hard to make a living. But when the owner walks into the store and takes money out of the till to buy a $2,000 (American) dog for her child and don’t pay the workers or her bills this is inevitable.
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Re: Black & White Coffee Ajijic Plaza, soon to be no more....
It's not the only place to do this. A popular restaurant does the same thing.
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I'm sure there are other places, sadly enough. I'm very close friends with all of the workers and know of their living conditions. It just bothers me to see them treated so poorly.
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Would Lisa be willing to sell the business?
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[quote="CanuckBob"]Would Lisa be willing to sell the business?[/quote]
Bob I really think there would be a good chance of that. She does not speak english but if you would like I can ask and get you the phone number. There may be past debt that would need to be taken care of, I'm not sure. But I will ask today. (I will find out today)
Bob I really think there would be a good chance of that. She does not speak english but if you would like I can ask and get you the phone number. There may be past debt that would need to be taken care of, I'm not sure. But I will ask today. (I will find out today)
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It would be great if a Dairy Queen went in there. They would make a killin !
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My husband votes for a Burger King! Jiji
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I would like to have Wendy´s or Taco Bell....
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PLEASE no franchises!!!artsnob wrote:I would like to have Wendy´s or Taco Bell....
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I strongly agree.Abrria wrote:PLEASE no franchises!!!artsnob wrote:I would like to have Wendy´s or Taco Bell....
Re: Black & White Coffee Ajijic Plaza, soon to be no more....
Me too!
One would have to sell about a million cups of coffee every month to pay that rent.
One would have to sell about a million cups of coffee every month to pay that rent.
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Just some place that can sell a blizzard ice cream !
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I would think that location is a high rent position..the prices they charge seem to reflect that...is Black Coffee a franchise ?
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Black Coffee is a franchise, Black an White is not, It is owned by the people who have the ice cream shop down the way
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A warning to all the people that take their dogs to the plaza. Lisa said after today she is putting poison in the dog water and food bowel at the plaza because she's tired of people bringing dogs to the coffee shop.
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sm1mex wrote:It would be great if a Dairy Queen went in there. They would make a killin !
One "entity" controls or has the rights for DQ in Jalisco. There are no independent franchisees other than this one, and all stores are company owned. They have been approached and will not sell a franchise nor are they interested in opening a store in the Lake Chapala area....yet.
No "blizzards" in the forecast, even for Enero.
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Maybe Trips Burgers could make a blizzard look a like and call it something else.
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Dog issue comment:
Just talked to the folks at Black and White and nothing will happen to the dogs. So talk about the labor issue but the Dog issue has been resolved. They heard the message.
Just talked to the folks at Black and White and nothing will happen to the dogs. So talk about the labor issue but the Dog issue has been resolved. They heard the message.
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Be sure to give tips to one of the employees. Don't put in tip jar.
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Re: Black & White Coffee Ajijic Plaza, soon to be no more....
Zed, who is the "they" that heard the message? I thought it was one person (the owner) who made the threat?
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Lady Otter Latté wrote:Zed, who is the "they" that heard the message? I thought it was one person (the owner) who made the threat?
Probably the same "they" that are going to build that wall and pay for it.
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OK here is what I heard. A day or so ago we were told by a lady customer at Black and White that the dogs were going to be poisoned so don't bring your dog here. Needless to say I was upset but thought about it overnight. Next day my friend and I were at Black and White. My friend went to one of the employees that we know and asked the question about what was going to happen to the dogs. Nothing, the boss has got the message and they will be left alone. These facts I personally witnessed. Was also told by employee that many folks had commented or complained.
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I can't believe it. I'm gone for exactly one week and everything is going to rat sith.
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Get back here, Mike! We obviously need you.
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