Grape vines

Mentioning muscadine grapes, another interesting and cool option would be to get a Brazilian Jaboticaba tree. I call mine my grape tree and it produces a black,grape like fruit that tastes very similar to a muscadine grape but they grow oddly up and down just the trunk and not on the branches like other fruit trees. The San Antonio nursery has them from time to time. There are a lot of recipes for making jaboticaba wine on google. I don't think you will have much plaga problems with this tree here. I planted mine from seed two years ago, so I am still waiting for mine to give fruit. I saw one medium sized one not long ago at the nursery in SA and it was covered in the black jaboticaba grapes. It is a very interesting looking tree!

scuppernong and muscadine are native to the southeast of the US and the French grew those in Alabama when they first arrived.. they are awful but they are grapes and being native they resist a lot of diseases , They do grow in the southeast so I do not see why they would not grow here..they are pretty awful but they are grapes..and if you grown them for the look rather tan the taste go for it..

The man who sells fruit trees on the side of the carretera in West Ajijic has red and white seedless grapes called crimson.

CanuckBob wrote:Thanks, I will check them out. Where exactly in SJC are they?

The vivero in San Juan Cosala is past the Raquet Club and after about two or three topes. It's on your left on the highway and they always have an assortment of flowering plants along the highway. It's two blocks before the only traffic light in SJC.

Another vivero that will order special plants for you is in Jocototpc. It's across from the Pemex as you almost enter the 4 lane area by Frieda's Restaurant. Across from the Pemex is an Oxxo and on the street behind Oxxo is a large vivero. He has ordered things like meyer lemon trees for friends.

I've found that grapes need a frost to put the last bit of sugar into them. Otherwise, they are not as sweet as one would like for table grapes and not enough sugar content for good fermentation. But that's just me. YMMV

brigitte wrote:here is the link to the picture gallery , the flowers are yellow and red.. I have not seen them here but I bet some people will recognize them
https://www.paradorsantamaria.com.mx/galeria/

The brown and yellow flowers hanging from the arbor are a variety of thumbergia. The vivero behind SuperLake has them sometimes. The vivero next to Telemx, when it was operating, had a huge one growing on their arbor. Just FYI.

Thanks, I love them , yes you are right I remember seeing some at the vivero behind SL..

Bob, Are you sure you want to grow concord grapes?  Good for making jelly but they taste like bubble gum!  

The dog groomers near the entrance to Mirasol, between SA and Riberas have a high arbor with a good healthy look vine with bunches of green grapes hanging.

THe jaboticaba is a tree not a vine and Bob wanted a vine. I just saw the Jaboticaba tree at the nursery on the side of the road in West Ajijic or west San Juan,,,The berries are really good.

Gamina wrote:

brigitte wrote:here is the link to the picture gallery , the flowers are yellow and red.. I have not seen them here but I bet some people will recognize them
https://www.paradorsantamaria.com.mx/galeria/

The brown and yellow flowers hanging from the arbor are a variety of thumbergia.  The vivero behind SuperLake has them sometimes.  The vivero next to Telemx, when it was operating, had a huge one growing on their arbor.  Just FYI.

Thunbergia mysorensis also known as the Indian clock vine. When you watch it flower you will see why it is called that. Mine grew well until it died.

did some fungus or bug kill it ot it just passed out suddenly?

brigitte wrote:did some fungus or bug kill it ot it just passed out suddenly?

It died slowly from?

Ha ha..old age?

5 % of the population is genetically indisposed to cilantro. To them it tastes like soap. There ya go Bob.

brigitte wrote:Ha ha..old age?

Who knows. To me it is quite mysterious why many plants die. It probably wasn't old age as it was only a couple of years old. I had a passion fruit vine that did very well for several years and then died. Nothing obvious above ground. I tried 3 avocado trees but all died. In places my soil had a lot of clay and the roots seemed to rot.

what does" indisposed to cilantro" mean? They do not like it= They are allergic or what else?

I'm one of the 5% "indisposed" to cilantro. Not allergic, I just don't like it. It indeed tastes like soap to me.

no lime and no cilantro, that is a tough one in Mexico!!

A lot of the plants here seem to need deep root systems, and not too much water. When you seedlings are safe to put outside, dig a deep hole, then a couple shovels full of leaf compost, then loosen the soil with perlite pellets from Laura's Garden Center in Ribaras. When moist, it should just barely clump in your hand. They seem to be attracted to the compost like a magnet, and once the roots hit it, they really take off.

Yeah, they served lime with the fish and chips today but tasted ok to me.