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Post by gringal on Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:57 am

Just got the current CFE bill: At least double previous, and usage hasn't changed. I have nine solar panels and compared to one of my neighbors with about the same usage, my bill is double re his.

Before going to CFE, I need a top notch electrician to check my system. The one we have been using has been too busy lately.
Recommendation, por favor?

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:45 am

I use Jose Martinez. He is the best one I have found.
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BTW......my usage is about 850 to 950 KWH every two months. My bill is from $4000 to $5200 pesos. I have a pool running 6 hours per day and two rental casitas along with my main house. The washer and dryer are going almost every day. I do not have any solar panels.

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Post by gringal on Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:34 am

THANKS ! Very Happy

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Post by ferret on Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:17 am

Gringal did you read the last link on TOB about rates?

edited to add the link: https://www.energiaecosmart.com/new-cfe-residential-rates-and-how-they-will-affect-you/

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Post by gringal on Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:24 am

ferret wrote:Gringal did you read the last link on TOB about rates?

edited to add the link: https://www.energiaecosmart.com/new-cfe-residential-rates-and-how-they-will-affect-you/


Yes I did. I think I'm screwed, but I'll have the electrician look the situation over and pinpoint the worst offenders.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:56 am

You couldn't possibly be using more electricity than me given you have solar panels and no pool. From what I know of your place your usage should be around 700KWH every 2 months and your panels should be covering about 500KWH of that. Your bill should never exceed $1000p max. You shouldn't even be in the DAC.

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Post by gringal on Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:25 am

CanuckBob wrote:You couldn't possibly be using more electricity than me given you have solar panels and no pool. From what I know of your place your usage should be around 700KWH every 2 months and your panels should be covering about 500KWH of that. Your bill should never exceed $1000p max. You shouldn't even be in the DAC.

How to get IN the DAC:  A year or so ago, there was a man in the casita who was gone for 3 weeks and left the electric heater on.  That did it for putting us in the DAC and I've heard all manner of stories about how long it takes to get OUT again..

There is also the need for one member of the family (not me) to run the mini split A/C at night in the bedroom, all year long.  (Don't ask.)  Other than that, we have a complete kitchen in the casita but both that fridge and ours are small (24/26  inches), microwaves and the usual coffee pots and one toaster oven. Stoves are gas. Last month when it was cold in the morning, I ran an electric heater in the office for a couple of hours. Until last year, we had our gas water heater and one electric "on demand" water heater in the casita, but when it blew up and shorted out, we dumped it in favor of replacing our old gas water heater with a much larger one which serves both places now.  Have a washer and gas dryer, but that's it, and no pool or other thing I can think of.

How to get OUT of the DAC:  After the electrician goes over the place, we'll see what can be done.  Someone published the new, increased rate information starting last month, from CFE, and that may have a lot to do with it.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:14 am

Could be your solar panels are not feeding back to the power grid due to some fault as well.

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Post by gringal on Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:33 am

CanuckBob wrote:Could be your solar panels are not feeding back to the power grid due to some fault as well.

According to the bill, we are getting credit on that, as usual.  On to the next possibility.  Maybe we need more solar panels to cover our wasteful habits. We have a large amount of space on the roof, so that's doable.

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Post by Canada_Mike on Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:36 am

When was the last time they were cleaned?
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Post by gringal on Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:11 am

Canada_Mike wrote:When was the last time they were cleaned?

Within the month, but as I posted above, we are getting credit for them same as always, so they're working.

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Post by Rosa Venus on Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:37 pm

My CFE bill has averaged 400-500 pesos every two months since I've been in this house (4 years). The bill I received a few days ago is $4900. Huh?

I'm assuming it's a mistake and headed to CFE on Monday with a printout of my meter, etc.
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Post by Cincy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:35 pm

I went into the DAC for one billing period (Nov 2017).  My rolling annual usage went to 3,053 KWh because I was still deploying my wasteful NOB habits.  That cost me $2,431 MXN. The next billing period, after overhauling my entire electrical usage was $277 MXN which bought me back below the 3,000 KWh annual rolling average DAC threshold.

My point is, getting out of DAC is not necessarily a prolonged affair if you act immediately!

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Post by gringal on Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:44 pm

Thanks for all the input. This coming week is going to be analysis and correction time.

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Post by cypress on Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:54 pm

gringal wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:You couldn't possibly be using more electricity than me given you have solar panels and no pool. From what I know of your place your usage should be around 700KWH every 2 months and your panels should be covering about 500KWH of that. Your bill should never exceed $1000p max. You shouldn't even be in the DAC.

How to get IN the DAC:  A year or so ago, there was a man in the casita who was gone for 3 weeks and left the electric heater on.  That did it for putting us in the DAC and I've heard all manner of stories about how long it takes to get OUT again..

There is also the need for one member of the family (not me) to run the mini split A/C at night in the bedroom, all year long.  (Don't ask.)  Other than that, we have a complete kitchen in the casita but both that fridge and ours are small (24/26  inches), microwaves and the usual coffee pots and one toaster oven. Stoves are gas. Last month when it was cold in the morning, I ran an electric heater in the office for a couple of hours. Until last year, we had our gas water heater and one electric "on demand" water heater in the casita, but when it blew up and shorted out, we dumped it in favor of replacing our old gas water heater with a much larger one which serves both places now.  Have a washer and gas dryer, but that's it, and no pool or other thing I can think of.

How to get OUT of the DAC:  After the electrician goes over the place, we'll see what can be done.  Someone published the new, increased rate information starting last month, from CFE, and that may have a lot to do with it.

How to get out of DAC? I went into DAC for one billing period. I made changes-mainly got a second meter for the casita and pool. I was automatically out of DAC the next billing period.

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Post by Cincy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:55 am

New CFE Residential Rates

Just plugged in the new CFE residential rates into my spreadsheet that monitors the health of my voltaic solar system.  Looks like I'm in for a significant % increase!  The only time the new rates would have helped was Aug/Oct 2017 when I dipped into the DAC.

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Note: My latest bill for 2019 did not reflect the new rates. I wonder if these "new rates" are real...

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Post by ferret on Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:30 am

Your next bill may tell if true. I'm assuming that they couldn't charge the "new" rate when part of your bill fell in 2018 and the rest in 2019. Which is the same timing as mine. Dunno.
I'm back up to 200 kwh in the bank after using my electric fireplace for the last three months but my "anniversary" date is March the 1st. So I'm also waiting to see if CFE takes my credit away on that date as well. My CFE bill has been the minimum 46 pesos since I installed the 5 panels and I also went in to Chapala and prepaid for the year based on that charge. Vamos a ver.
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Post by Cincy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:10 am

I'm thinking that article by EcoSmart about new CFE rates is BS information released by a solar company trying to drum up business...!!!

On CFE's web page the rate increases for January 2019 are very small.

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Post by ferret on Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:25 am

This is an interesting read...
https://forum.sancarlosmexico.com/forum1/17144.html

One of the posts shows a rate chart and shows Jalisco. Still feeling like a mushroom though.
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Post by Cincy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:38 am


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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:22 am

ferret wrote:This is an interesting read...
https://forum.sancarlosmexico.com/forum1/17144.html

One of the posts shows a rate chart and shows Jalisco. Still feeling like a mushroom though.

Coastal cities like San Carlos used to have CFE subsidies. That conversation is irrelevant to us as we were never part of the subsidies. Coastal Jalisco was though.

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Post by ferret on Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:27 am

I've already seen that Cincy on TOB. And, I sincerely hope you are correct. Being a Doubting Tomasina, this may also be a case of the website being not up to date... especially with the number of people who are already paying more and don't know why.
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Post by RVGRINGO on Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:49 am

It appears that prices are up, subsidies are vanishing, lower categories are shrinking and the DAC entry point is lower. You are doomed, if you do not reduce your consumption significantly, or convert to a solar system.

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Post by MexicoPete on Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:01 am

You used to go into DAC if your previous 12 month total was 3000 or more KWH.

Are you suggesting that this has changed? When I went to the latest CFE charge rates, it still showed DAC to be 3000 or more KWH in a year. Exactly the same.

Sure the basic, intermediate top non DAC rates go up a small amount every month of so, but they always have.

Where is the major change? I don't see it. I see the same gradual monthly increase we have always had. I hope I am not wrong.
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:10 am

Yes, they seem to boost it every month. It has gone up substantially in the past 5 years or so. Almost double.

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