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Post by Problem Child on Sat May 04, 2019 2:10 pm

Flagged down just West of WM.

Check out:

1. Registration------------------------------------- -Got it.
2. Helmet -------------------------------------------Good for go.
3. Lights on ----------------------------------------- WTF (Just bikes and quads)
4. Yellow Reflective Vest ----------------------------- TES! That's a shot Inmate.

No hint of giving $$

Next post: Check out when I went to ORMA TO GET THE YELLOW VEST

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Post by ohhappyday on Sat May 04, 2019 4:22 pm

Why belittle people just doing the job they've been assigned to do by referring to them as " Frick and Frac"? How rude.

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Post by Carry Bean on Sat May 04, 2019 4:42 pm

Agreed and I hope they continue to clamp down on the riders with little kids hanging from their motorbikes with no helmet.

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Post by Problem Child on Sat May 04, 2019 4:49 pm

Carry Bean wrote:Agreed and I hope they continue to clamp down on the riders with little kids hanging from their motorbikes with no helmet.

I didn't intend to belittle. I apologize for any preceived negative connotation.

Frick and Frak is not actually a negative term. it is is a reference two people who are closely linked in some way, especially through a work partnership or strong friendship. The origin is from a famous.

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Post by slainte39 on Sun May 05, 2019 1:53 am

Problem Child wrote:
Carry Bean wrote:Agreed and I hope they continue to clamp down on the riders with little kids hanging from their motorbikes with no helmet.

I didn't intend to belittle. I apologize for any preceived negative connotation.

Frick and Frak  is not actually a negative term. it is is a reference two people who are closely linked in some way, especially through a work partnership or strong friendship. The origin is from a famous.

A very weak defense counselor.
You are way out of line in my opinion, making an issue out of a routine matter.
Nothing better to do...…...SAD!!!!

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Post by Problem Child on Sun May 05, 2019 8:34 am

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Problem Child wrote:
Carry Bean wrote:Agreed and I hope they continue to clamp down on the riders with little kids hanging from their motorbikes with no helmet.

I didn't intend to belittle. I apologize for any preceived negative connotation.

Frick and Frak  is not actually a negative term. it is is a reference two people who are closely linked in some way, especially through a work partnership or strong friendship. The origin is from a famous.

A very weak defense counselor.
You are way out of line in my opinion, making an issue out of a routine matter.
Nothing better to do...…...SAD!!!!

I was not making an "issue" of the incident, nor was I defending defending anything, I was recounting an incident, and I did apologize if offense was taken. Nothing better to do than what? Make an informational post as a matter of interest? Other than myself, there may be people here that didn't know motorcycles must have their lights on all the time they are driving, and that even on an ATV you must have a reflective vest. But then it might be that I'm one of the few, if any, Lakeside expats that ride an ATV (at 80 years old), though some might use scooters where the same rules apply.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun May 05, 2019 10:20 am

ATVs should not even be allowed on the caraterra or any highway for that matter. I don't see many ATVs driving around Guadalajara.

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Post by Problem Child on Sun May 05, 2019 10:37 am

CanuckBob wrote:ATVs should not even be allowed on the caraterra or any highway for that matter. I don't see many ATVs driving around Guadalajara.

IMO, driving an ATV in Guadalajara would be insanity.

I use mine locally only. No farther than Chapala to West Ajijic.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun May 05, 2019 1:12 pm

Still isn't street legal no matter what the local transitos allow. Do you have the minimum 3,000,000 MXN liability insurance policy on it?

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Post by Problem Child on Sun May 05, 2019 1:47 pm

Parker says they don't have any company that issues insurance for liability on them.

There was a long discussion a while ago about if an ATV is street legal.

Some said it could be used only off-road.

I said, it that's true, then why must you license it?

No cop has ever said it's not street legal, including those who blatently wanted a payoff.

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Post by suegarn on Sun May 05, 2019 4:28 pm

Problem Child wrote:Parker says they don't have any company that issues insurance for liability on them.

There was a long discussion a while ago about if an ATV is street legal.

Some said it could be used only off-road.

I said, it that's true, then why must you license it?

No cop has ever said it's not street legal, including those who blatently wanted a payoff.


So if you end up in an accident that's your fault, either you may lose everything you own, or the other person is screwed because you don't have liability insurance?

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Post by Problem Child on Sun May 05, 2019 5:22 pm

suegarn wrote:
Problem Child wrote:Parker says they don't have any company that issues insurance for liability on them.

There was a long discussion a while ago about if an ATV is street legal.

Some said it could be used only off-road.

I said, it that's true, then why must you license it?

No cop has ever said it's not street legal, including those who blatently wanted a payoff.


So if you end up in an accident that's your fault, either you may lose everything you own, or the other person is screwed because you don't have liability insurance?

In theory, that's possible. There are many things that are possible in this World. I could be walking down the street and get killed by a car hitting you because the driver has an M.I. or I could be the driver of the car.There are inherent risks in life.

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Post by SunFan on Sun May 05, 2019 8:00 pm

Sounds like you are suggesting vehicle liability insurance should be optional here in mexico?

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Post by suegarn on Sun May 05, 2019 8:26 pm

Problem Child wrote:
suegarn wrote:
Problem Child wrote:Parker says they don't have any company that issues insurance for liability on them.

There was a long discussion a while ago about if an ATV is street legal.

Some said it could be used only off-road.

I said, it that's true, then why must you license it?

No cop has ever said it's not street legal, including those who blatently wanted a payoff.


So if you end up in an accident that's your fault, either you may lose everything you own, or the other person is screwed because you don't have liability insurance?
In theory, that's possible. There are many things that are possible in this World. I could be walking down the street and get killed by a car hitting you because the driver has an M.I. or I could be the driver of the car.There are inherent  risks in life.


That shouldn't be an inherent risk for someone who carries liability insurance. By not carrying liability insurance, you're basically saying you don't give a f**k about anyone else that you may hurt?

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Post by Trailrunner on Sun May 05, 2019 8:38 pm

Right. He doesn't. 

He can't carry liability no one will sell it to him. A normal person would say - I better not drive this vehicle anymore. 

So, if he hits someone this is what he's going to tell them. . .."There are inherent risks in life."
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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Sun May 05, 2019 8:46 pm

Yeah. An 80-year-old, hard of hearing guy with poor vision and no liability insurance riding an ATV on a highway smashing into you is just another inherent risk of life.
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Post by kamcd on Sun May 05, 2019 8:54 pm

...and there are so many fewer risks you are an entitled gringo who basically doesn't give a s*** about you and, whoops, your permanently disabled child

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Post by Problem Child on Sun May 05, 2019 8:55 pm

Lady Otter Latté wrote:Yeah. An 80-year-old, hard of hearing guy with poor vision and no liability insurance riding an ATV on a highway smashing into you is just another inherent risk of life.

If you're speaking of me, I do not have poor vision. Nor does and ATV travel at high speed and zig-zag through traffic.

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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Sun May 05, 2019 9:03 pm

Problem Child wrote:
Lady Otter Latté wrote:Yeah. An 80-year-old, hard of hearing guy with poor vision and no liability insurance riding an ATV on a highway smashing into you is just another inherent risk of life.

If you're speaking of me, I do not have poor vision. Nor does and ATV travel at high speed and zig-zag  through traffic.

Oh please. I’ve seen you drive a car and that was scary enough. No matter how you try to rationalize it you have no business driving an ATV on highways, with or without liability insurance.
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Post by slainte39 on Sun May 05, 2019 10:03 pm

Problem Child wrote:
Lady Otter Latté wrote:Yeah. An 80-year-old, hard of hearing guy with poor vision and no liability insurance riding an ATV on a highway smashing into you is just another inherent risk of life.

If you're speaking of me, I do not have poor vision. Nor does and ATV travel at high speed and zig-zag  through traffic.

Livestock, mainly cows, don´t travel at high speed or zig zag through traffic either, but they can certainly cause accidents on streets and highways.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun May 05, 2019 10:20 pm

Problem Child wrote:Parker says they don't have any company that issues insurance for liability on them.

There was a long discussion a while ago about if an ATV is street legal.

Some said it could be used only off-road.

I said, it that's true, then why must you license it?

No cop has ever said it's not street legal, including those who blatently wanted a payoff.

If you run someone over and severely injure or kill them you will be rotting in a Mexican prison for a long time. Even large sums of cash will take time to make it's way to the "right" person. Your choice but don't say you didn't know..........

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Post by suegarn on Sun May 05, 2019 10:59 pm

CanuckBob wrote:
Problem Child wrote:Parker says they don't have any company that issues insurance for liability on them.

There was a long discussion a while ago about if an ATV is street legal.

Some said it could be used only off-road.

I said, it that's true, then why must you license it?

No cop has ever said it's not street legal, including those who blatently wanted a payoff.

If you run someone over and severely injure or kill them you will be rotting in a Mexican prison for a long time. Even large sums of cash will take time to make it's way to the "right" person. Your choice but don't say you didn't know..........


What I worry about, CBob, is not his 'choice', but the choice of the victim to assume that a driver with any intelligence and conscience will be insured for liability!

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Post by kamcd on Mon May 06, 2019 9:20 pm

Problem Child wrote:
Lady Otter Latté wrote:Yeah. An 80-year-old, hard of hearing guy with poor vision and no liability insurance riding an ATV on a highway smashing into you is just another inherent risk of life.

If you're speaking of me, I do not have poor vision. Nor does and ATV travel at high speed and zig-zag  through traffic.

Yeah but you are still a jerk who uses his vehicle in an unsafe manner, doesn't carry liability insurance, doesn't care about his (potential) victims and (in my view) posts way too much self referential irritating bullsh***

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Post by Trailrunner on Mon May 06, 2019 10:06 pm

Totally, Kamcd! The eternal victim.
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Post by slainte39 on Mon May 06, 2019 11:01 pm

kamcd wrote:
Problem Child wrote:
Lady Otter Latté wrote:Yeah. An 80-year-old, hard of hearing guy with poor vision and no liability insurance riding an ATV on a highway smashing into you is just another inherent risk of life.

If you're speaking of me, I do not have poor vision. Nor does and ATV travel at high speed and zig-zag  through traffic.

Yeah but you are still a jerk who uses his vehicle in an unsafe manner, doesn't carry liability insurance, doesn't care about his (potential) victims and (in my view) posts way too much self referential irritating bullsh***

I just gave you 26,000 likes in my ethereal world…..hard to find so I am mentioning it here……. lol!    and      Beer

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