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AMLO's take on drug legalization

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Post by Trailrunner Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:32 pm

Me too.
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Post by espíritu del lago Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:10 pm

there would be room for the homeless in the vacant prisons.
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Post by jayc1ay Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:41 am

Por supuesto. AMLO has a totally sane and humane approach to this mess. May the next US president and congress endorse it.

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Post by slainte39 Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:12 am

Absolutely, the only solution to the problem.

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Post by inthecolumbiagorge Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:40 am

The war on drugs is a total joke. It does not keep people from doing drugs. It does not keep people from selling drugs. It does not keep people from manufacturing drugs. What it does in the US is put literally millions of people in jail which benefits no one except "for profit prisons":/ What it does in Mexico is get people killed:/ Neither are good outcomes. Prohibition of anything just promotes it. $47,000,000,000 spent on drug law enforcement in the US in 2107. 1.6 million people incarcerated for drugs in the US in 2017. 85% of those incarcerated were for possession.....for just having drugs, not for selling or manufacturing. I have no idea about the statistics in Mexico but the war on drugs has a seriously huge effect here. Anything other than decriminalization is just a band aid that will tear away in a very short time and no solution at all:/
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Post by sm1mex Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:29 pm

They have legalized drugs in the Netherlands. Fixes available with sterile syringes, reasonable price and rehab programs. No more black market or drug dealing on the streets and they have closed many prisons for previous drug related arrests.

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Post by ferret Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:39 pm

I gave you a thumbs up inthecolumbiagorge for stating the obvious.

But, I think you meant 2017 and 47 million... not 2107 and 47 trillion?????
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Post by Trailrunner Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:28 pm

sm1mex wrote:They have legalized drugs in the Netherlands.  Fixes available with sterile syringes, reasonable price and rehab programs.  No more black market or drug dealing on the streets and they have closed many prisons for previous drug related arrests.

Yes, it has worked well there, I applaud them for that and hope the US and MX do the same. However, they do not have vicious blood-thirsty organized cartels calling the shots as we do. I like the idea, in theory, but am very apprehensive.
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Post by CanuckBob Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:52 pm

Portugal also has decriminalized all drugs with great success.

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Post by MexicoPete Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:15 pm

I was stationed in the Netherlands in the early 60s. And I remember at that time that marijuana was legal. Being immature, I remember that I felt that there was no point in smoking it, if I were not breaking a law.

And I never smoked it once while stationed there. I have no recollection about what other drugs were or were not allowed at that time.
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Post by CanuckBob Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:26 pm

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Post by MiguelHeron Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:52 am

Can you now get medical marijuana in Lake area?
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Post by CanuckBob Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:48 pm

You can buy CBD oil online and have it delivered to your front door.

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Post by ltollefs Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:59 pm

No mention of that other gateway drug: greed. Biden - Neoliberal lap-dog: I can't see a difference.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/joe-biden-on-legalizing-marijuana-lets-figure-out-if-its-a-gateway-drug-first-2019-11-17
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Post by ltollefs Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:04 pm

CanuckBob wrote:You can buy CBD oil online and have it delivered to your front door.

Dr. Justina Jimenez sells it at her clinic.
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Post by ferret Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:39 pm

Yes she does and you can also buy it from the Yucatan. However, nobody can tell me how it's made, or the method by which the concentration and content of both good and nasty stuff in it is determined BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A SINGLE THIRD PARTY LAB IN MEXICO THAT CAN DO THE TESTING.
I order CBD from the U.S. that details everything. Alex Peterson brings it in and it goes through customs. I know what I'm getting and it works.
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Post by Trailrunner Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:48 pm

I get it from the Yucatan too, may not know exactly what I'm getting, but I do know it works. Luckily my needs for it are benign at this time so that's all I need to know.

Who is "Dr. Justinia Jimenez" and where is this person???
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Post by ferret Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:02 pm

Her office is just west of Yves Restaurant on the same lateral.
I have friends who come from Canada every year. He has TIA's and Dra. Justina gave him CBD oil and it worked very well. He didn't have any here. Goes back to Canada last April, signs up for the medical program to get his CBD and it didn't work nearly as well. He and his wife will be back here shortly and will be beating a path to Dra. Justina's.
There is so much that we don't know about the products that are available to us. If one brand doesn't work, try another.
The stuff that I bought in Canada was crap (for me) too. I have now tried three different brand names of CBD with approximately the same concentration. Only one of them works for me and that's giving each a two week trial period and adjusting dosages.
Don't give up!
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Post by MiguelHeron Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:09 pm

I was under the impression Mexico had legalized marijuana for medical purposes. Is CBD oil the only thing they legalized?
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Post by ferret Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:12 pm

The vote has been delayed until next June.
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Post by MiguelHeron Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:17 pm

Thanks ferret
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Post by MiguelHeron Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:28 pm

I spent a month in Chapala a year ago. I'm just curious as to what the punishment would likely be, if you got busted with a couple joints of illegal in the lakeside area. Let's just assume you have gringo privilege and it is a first offense. And no bribes paid.
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