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Post by CanuckBob on 25/02/20, 11:45 am

Doesn't the regular flu go around and around killing tens of thousands of people per year?

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Post by CanuckBob on 25/02/20, 11:54 am

Actually after looking it up it is hundreds of thousands worldwide.

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Post by Jreboll on 25/02/20, 12:25 pm

Diseases are like relatives who have lived with you for ages. You know them and put up with them and very little they do surprises you no matter how unpleasant they may be.
But then out of the blue your black sheep daughter brings home a boyfriend who needs a place to stay. And you say WTF??
That is a new disease.

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Post by CanuckBob on 25/02/20, 12:41 pm

Meet the new new flu.....same as the old flu. Maybe not even as bad.

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Post by CanuckBob on 25/02/20, 01:24 pm

Trump couldn't have asked for a better way to burst the economic bubble in the US (which was going to burst anyways) Can't blame anything on him. Makes one think he started it......lol.

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Post by CHILLIN on 25/02/20, 03:05 pm

Don't sweat it. I am working on a cure. All I can tell you at this stage is that it involves our gardener's home distilled tequila.
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Post by CanuckBob on 25/02/20, 03:23 pm

From what I understand a healthy adult will hardly notice they even have it. Like a mild flu. Of course the elderly and those with compromised immune systems could develop pneumonia and possibly die. Just like with the regular cold and flu bugs.......

They haven't found a cure or vaccine for the common cold yet.

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Post by Jreboll on 25/02/20, 06:05 pm

I just met an Irani. His relatives from Iran tell him that the epidemic is centered in Qom where the residents belong to a fanatical religion and nobody goes to China so what the hell?? Iran’s leader is from this town. All kind of conspiracy theories abound.

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Post by SunFan on 25/02/20, 06:45 pm

CanuckBob wrote:Meet the new new flu.....same as the old flu. Maybe not even as bad.

As I understand it the mortality rate for the run-of-the-mill flu is 0.1 %. For the new virus it appears to be 2 to 3 %. Much deadlier.

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Post by Smartalex on 25/02/20, 11:35 pm

Here's a link to the latest information on the coronavirus from the Centers for Disease Control. I found this most interesting:

"However, it’s important to note that current global circumstances suggest it is likely that this virus will cause a pandemic. In that case, the risk assessment would be different."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.html
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Post by RVGRINGO on 26/02/20, 09:42 am

It is the acceleration rate of the spread of the virus that is of concern. It is spreading very, very fast. Then, as virusus do, it will begin to mutate.

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Post by CanuckBob on 26/02/20, 11:02 am

SunFan wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Meet the new new flu.....same as the old flu. Maybe not even as bad.

As I understand it the mortality rate for the run-of-the-mill flu is 0.1 %. For the new virus it appears to be 2 to 3 %. Much deadlier.

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From what I have read there is approximately 80,0000 infected and 2700 have died worldwide. Of course the death rate will be way higher in undeveloped nations and way lower in developed nations such as Canada and the U.S.

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Post by CanuckBob on 26/02/20, 11:08 am

RVGRINGO wrote:It is the acceleration rate of the spread of the virus that is of concern. It is spreading very, very fast. Then, as virusus do, it will begin to mutate.
The flu always mutates which is why vaccinations don't always work and it keeps going around and around. It doesn't like hot climates.

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Post by CanuckBob on 26/02/20, 05:03 pm

Oh it will be here but it won't do well in this hotter environment. The virus dies a lot quicker with heat.

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Post by CanuckBob on 26/02/20, 05:05 pm

Which is why most if the flu arrives here from Canada and the northern US states during snowbird season!

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Post by Jreboll on 27/02/20, 05:19 am

Trump says there’s nothing to be worried about. He put Pence in charge of combating the corona virus.
In the meantime he’ll be at the golf course if anyone needs him.

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Post by CanuckBob on 27/02/20, 08:21 am

Drinking a Tecate.......he's staying away from Corona.

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Post by cerebrozo on 27/02/20, 08:58 am

Here's an extract from detailed reports the CDC Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issues every year:

Estimated Influenza Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States.  [ bit.ly 2Tj2gUF ]

1.  The overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season (in the U.S.A.) was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 21 million influenza-associated medical visits, 810,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths.

2.  CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season (in the U.S.A.) included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza.
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Post by RVGRINGO on 27/02/20, 10:10 am

It is hard to defeat a virus because viruses are not living things. They are complicated assemblies of molecules, including proteins, nucleic acids, lipids, and carbohydrates. On their own they can do nothing until they enter a living cell. Without cells, viruses would not be able to multiply. So, the trick is to avoid contact with the virus by avoiding crouds, contact with unclean surfaces, etc. It is certainly not easy, and may be near impossible. That is why isolation and those 'spacesuits' are the only approach that might help. Unfortunately, those measures are usually too late. This is probably a good time to stock up on supplies and stay at home as much as possible. Wash often.

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Post by Jreboll on 27/02/20, 10:18 am

There are those who are quoting statistics for the flu. What one has to understand is that this is not another flu nor will it replace the flu. Having had the flu or vaccination for the flu will not immunize one against this virus. Therefore any stats for the corona virus will be stacked on those for the flu.

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Post by CanuckBob on 27/02/20, 11:02 am

All flu's are part of the "corona" family......as I understand.

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Post by Mrs. Rupert on 27/02/20, 04:24 pm

CBob, I just looked up warmer weather and virus spread. Sorry to tell you that warmer climates increase the spread of viruses- WebMD

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Post by Trailrunner on 27/02/20, 07:42 pm

Just heard from the hospital I used to work at in northern CA, they have just admitted their first positive corona virus pt. Pt not in isolation unit but up on the floors. Seems a little cavalier to me.
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