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Post by CanuckBob on Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:35 pm

I thought this deserves its own thread.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/jalisco-governor-threatens-economic-shutdown/

Maybe he should try enforcement before making everyone suffer especially those businesses that spent money to be compliant and are following all the protocols. I haven't heard of one business being shut down here and we know a few that aren't following protocols. How about fines or jail time for those without a mask?

This will cause some serious unrest......I imagine the Governor and his croonies will still collect a paycheck.

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Post by Intercasa on Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:50 pm

For politicians it is a no win, close down things to protect and people complain they cannot work, require masks and people have their rights or dont care. Pontius Pilate washes his hands and says ok no more nanny state if you want to work then do so, if you want to go out then do so and protect yourself.

Require masks? In a country where people know someone, flash money or have guns? Let the stupid die when they try to use their influences, bribe or pull a gun on the virus. Currently there are not enough police to stop the real crimes, people assaulted daily at Walmart, over 70 plucked off the streets in Chapala and kidnapped, murdered or become narco slaves. Id rather have the police come 2 hours after they are called when some armed thugs try to rob me than 2 days later because they were fining rancheros and dumb gringos.

The only way to possibly make it work is to empower the SOB transitos, hey we will tow ya momma as she had no mask, take us to your ATM cuz you had no mask on.
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Post by CanuckBob on Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:11 am

I agree with letting the dumb one's die.

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Post by ComputerGuy on Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:45 am

So, massive outbreak in Tulsa two weeks after tRump's rally...
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Post by CHILLIN on Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:06 am

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe some of these people exposing themselves and others to possible infection are actually borderline suicidal? Prevention of self harm creates the majority of laws in most countries.
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:52 am

Well tomorrow is the deadline for whether or not the Governor hits the lockdown button. Does anyone know where we stand?

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Post by Wide Sky on Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm

When I check Jalisco on this site it says hospitals are at about 31%; as for daily cases ????
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/?fbclid=IwAR34yp5ptczHMN6xDs16iIdngbTDT-9r6gbAq12iR8cPqiTcpt23oivxWj0

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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:00 pm

Well at only 31% we should be OK for a while. As trump would say "if we stop testing or admitting anyone to the hospitals it will just go away"........

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Post by ldrews on Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:46 pm

CanuckBob wrote:Well at only 31% we should be OK for a while. As trump would say "if we stop testing or admitting anyone to the hospitals it will just go away"........

I don't think he said any such thing. Link please.

He probably said something like "more testing leads to more reported cases, so if you want fewer reported cases don't do so much testing"

I believe that the latest statistics show that the number of deaths/reported cases is dropping rapidly. Or, in other words, the increased testing is discovering less severe cases, cases that do not result in death.

Of course any illness is a pain in the butt, but it appears that humanity will not actually perish from the COVID-19 virus.

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Post by cypress on Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:04 pm

CHILLIN wrote:Have you ever stopped to think that maybe some of these people exposing themselves and others to possible infection are actually borderline suicidal? Prevention of self harm creates the majority of laws in most countries.

Yes

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Post by kiko on Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:35 pm

Gov Alfaro knows that the state govt cannot control the spread with enforcement because the enforcement infrastructure simply does not exist at a high functional level. The only card he holds is to increase awareness of COVID-19 with a threat of shutdown. If the worst case scenario comes to fruition, then at least he can claim he did more than any other governor of the other Mexican states and that the fatality rate statistics for Jalisco were somewhat lower. In addition, he is buying time. If Gov Alfaro sat back and did nothing, then that would be the worst decision he could make for us and his political career.

If I were governor I would take immediate action to ban all flights from the USA and only admit extranjeros who hold a valid TP or RP. No FMM. Same with checkpoints at all border crossings from adjoining states. That may sound extreme but we are living in extreme times.
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Post by ldrews on Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:43 pm

kiko wrote:Gov Alfaro knows that the state govt cannot control the spread with enforcement because the enforcement infrastructure simply does not exist at a high functional level.  The only card he holds is to increase awareness of COVID-19 with a threat of shutdown.  If the worst case scenario comes to fruition, then at least he can claim he did more than any other governor of the other Mexican states and that the fatality rate statistics for Jalisco were somewhat lower.  In addition, he is buying time.  If Gov Alfaro sat back and did nothing, then that would be the worst decision he could make for us and his political career.

If I were governor I would take immediate action to ban all flights from the USA and only admit extranjeros who hold a valid TP or RP.  No FMM.  Same with checkpoints at all border crossings from adjoining states.  That may sound extreme but we are living in extreme times.

Or we could follow Sweden's example.  Try to protect the elderly and those with vulnerable medical conditions, and let the rest of society proceed normally.  Their results are not much different than neighboring countries who have gone the lockdown, mask, and social distancing route.

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Post by SunshineyDay on Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:54 pm

Kiko you are right on.

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Post by SunshineyDay on Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:57 pm

CanuckBob wrote:Well at only 31% we should be OK for a while. As trump would say "if we stop testing or admitting anyone to the hospitals it will just go away"........

CBob you get the laugh of the day! LOL!

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Post by kiko on Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:05 pm

Reality check today, my sister in Houston told me the local hospitals are sending patients by helicopter Star Flight to other cities as far as 150 miles away since ICU is full. but it is a hoax, right?

She is a die hard Trumper and blames COVID on minorities who are spreading COVID.

My mom dropped her when she was a baby on a tile floor and she landed on her head but I love her anyway.
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Post by Ida Claire on Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:34 pm

CanuckBob wrote:I agree with letting the dumb one's die.

No skin off my nose.
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Post by SunshineyDay on Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:17 pm

Yet!

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Post by slainte39 on Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:27 pm

kiko wrote:Reality check today, my sister in Houston told me the local hospitals are sending patients by helicopter Star Flight to other cities as far as 150 miles away since ICU is full.  but it is a hoax, right?  

She is a die hard Trumper and blames COVID on minorities who are spreading COVID.  

My mom dropped her when she was a baby on a tile floor and she landed on her head but I love her anyway.

Ahhhh!!! Now we know what happened to ldrews.

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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:47 pm

ldrews wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Well at only 31% we should be OK for a while. As trump would say "if we stop testing or admitting anyone to the hospitals it will just go away"........

I don't think he said any such thing.  Link please.

He probably said something like "more testing leads to more reported cases, so if you want fewer reported cases don't do so much testing"

I believe that the latest statistics show that the number of deaths/reported cases is dropping rapidly.  Or, in other words, the increased testing is discovering less severe cases, cases that do not result in death.

Of course any illness is a pain in the butt, but it appears that humanity will not actually perish from the COVID-19 virus.
Well your statement is just as stupid so I rest my case........friggin trumptards.......!!!

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Post by ferret on Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:02 pm

ldrews wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Well at only 31% we should be OK for a while. As trump would say "if we stop testing or admitting anyone to the hospitals it will just go away"........

I don't think he said any such thing.  Link please.

He probably said something like "more testing leads to more reported cases, so if you want fewer reported cases don't do so much testing"

I believe that the latest statistics show that the number of deaths/reported cases is dropping rapidly.  Or, in other words, the increased testing is discovering less severe cases, cases that do not result in death.

Of course any illness is a pain in the butt, but it appears that humanity will not actually perish from the COVID-19 virus.

Fercrissakes drowsy! Get your head out of your ass!
https://covid19info.live/
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Post by mudgirl on Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:10 pm

CHILLIN wrote:Have you ever stopped to think that maybe some of these people exposing themselves and others to possible infection are actually borderline suicidal? Prevention of self harm creates the majority of laws in most countries.

Nope- they're just stupid or think they're invulnerable. There may be the odd sociopath who thinks it's fun to spread it around and has a death wish, just as there were a few fucked-up guys who knowingly exposed others to AIDS, but for the majority, it's just a matter of cherished ignorance.

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