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Post by RickS Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 pm

.... get caught 'cheating', get fined and ultimately lose their very lucrative job as CEO and President!

Way to go, Canada!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/americas/canada-exec-yukon-coronavirus-vaccine-trnd/index.html
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Post by Zedinmexico Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:32 pm

Yea you want to talk about a couple of real stinkers here you go!

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Post by TomQC Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:48 am

RickS wrote:.... get caught 'cheating', get fined and ultimately lose their very lucrative job as CEO and President!

Way to go, Canada!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/americas/canada-exec-yukon-coronavirus-vaccine-trnd/index.html

And they will not be getting their second shot before August!

https://globalnews.ca/news/7601661/bakers-not-eligible-vaccine-coronavirus/
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Post by SunFan Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:39 am

It's great that Canada appears to be recognizing the disadvantaged in its vaccine distribution plans.

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Post by cerebrozo Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:40 am

Here's a related report, from the USA, about how the rich and famous are leveraging their clout and connections to jump ahead of the vaccine line.

Hollywood Elite in COVID-19 Vaccine Scramble
Variety entertainment and business news - 25 Jan. 2021
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.  People with power and wealth are paying private, concierge doctors and accessing private planes to receive one of the two established COVID-19 vaccines on the market.

.  Dr. Robert Huizenga of Beverley Hills said he has been offered bribes, in excess of $10,000, by individuals desperate to get vaccinated.

.  Allen Shapiro, former CEO of of Dick Clark Productions, flew in a private jet to Florida recently in search of the vaccine.

.  “It should not be condoned. We should find ways to penalize it.  We’ve got 91-year-olds waiting, health care workers waiting. People who are wealthy can easily find ways to quarantine, mask, and stay isolated for another month or two", and wait their turn.  -- Dr. Art Caplan, director of medical ethics at the NYU School of Medicine
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Post by Zedinmexico Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:17 pm

cerebrozo wrote:Here's a related report, from the USA, about how the rich and famous are leveraging their clout and connections to jump ahead of the vaccine line.

Hollywood Elite in COVID-19 Vaccine Scramble
Variety entertainment and business news - 25 Jan. 2021
bit.ly 36kV95w

.  People with power and wealth are paying private, concierge doctors and accessing private planes to receive one of the two established COVID-19 vaccines on the market.

.  Dr. Robert Huizenga of Beverley Hills said he has been offered bribes, in excess of $10,000, by individuals desperate to get vaccinated.

.  Allen Shapiro, former CEO of of Dick Clark Productions, flew in a private jet to Florida recently in search of the vaccine.

.  “It should not be condoned. We should find ways to penalize it.  We’ve got 91-year-olds waiting, health care workers waiting. People who are wealthy can easily find ways to quarantine, mask, and stay isolated for another month or two", and wait their turn.  -- Dr. Art Caplan, director of medical ethics at the NYU School of Medicine


Yep my mom is 91 with asthma. They told her she can't even sign up so she waits by herself in the home she has been locked up in since May (she is doing fine). Any wonder why many (not all) rich folks are hated. Question is this any different from us folks who at some point can pay for the vaccine locally compared to locals waiting for gubmint vaccine?? We probably will be in this situation soon. Should we wait until vaccine is offered to all or take advantage of our higher economic standard? I don't know the answer do you??

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Post by RickS Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:20 pm

Moral questions are hard to answer..... but it's a good question!

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Post by CanuckBob Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:35 pm

Zedinmexico wrote:
cerebrozo wrote:Here's a related report, from the USA, about how the rich and famous are leveraging their clout and connections to jump ahead of the vaccine line.

Hollywood Elite in COVID-19 Vaccine Scramble
Variety entertainment and business news - 25 Jan. 2021
bit.ly 36kV95w

.  People with power and wealth are paying private, concierge doctors and accessing private planes to receive one of the two established COVID-19 vaccines on the market.

.  Dr. Robert Huizenga of Beverley Hills said he has been offered bribes, in excess of $10,000, by individuals desperate to get vaccinated.

.  Allen Shapiro, former CEO of of Dick Clark Productions, flew in a private jet to Florida recently in search of the vaccine.

.  “It should not be condoned. We should find ways to penalize it.  We’ve got 91-year-olds waiting, health care workers waiting. People who are wealthy can easily find ways to quarantine, mask, and stay isolated for another month or two", and wait their turn.  -- Dr. Art Caplan, director of medical ethics at the NYU School of Medicine


Yep my mom is 91 with asthma.  They told her she can't even sign up so she waits by herself in the home she has been locked up in since May (she is doing fine).  Any wonder why many (not all) rich folks are hated.   Question is this any different from us folks who at some point can pay for the vaccine locally compared to locals waiting for gubmint vaccine??  We probably will be in this situation soon. Should we wait until vaccine is offered to all or take advantage of our higher economic standard? I don't know the answer do you??

If this happens every expat here should also pay for one local who cannot afford it. It is in our best interest to get everyone vaccinated.

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Post by RickS Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:48 pm

Great idea!
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Post by solajijic Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:46 pm

A group of Lake Chapala residents went to Florida two weeks ago for vaccine appointments they had of course their passports, valid US drivers licenses from their former home state AND falsified Florida property leases in the county. In and back within 3 days.

So yeah, there will be lots of moral questions. They have obviously decided to cheat.

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Post by Jreboll Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:16 pm

Here in s. Texas some Mexicans are coming across to get their shots. They’re figuring out how to prevent it from happening.

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Post by brigitte Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:21 pm

It would be a great idea if you had to pay for vaccine but you do not ...I have no problem paying for a couple of residents  vaccines who could not get on the list..It is a good idea.
Taking a plane and going with a group anywhere right now is a good way to get sick anyways..

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Post by MexicoPete Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:23 pm

Here, in Seattle, they have distributed all of the vaccine shots they have received to date. And will not be distributing any more until the next US wide distribution of the vaccine. Darn Blackeye
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Post by Wide Sky Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:26 pm

RickS wrote:.... get caught 'cheating', get fined and ultimately lose their very lucrative job as CEO and President!

Way to go, Canada!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/americas/canada-exec-yukon-coronavirus-vaccine-trnd/index.html
He resigned after he was caught - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/28/canada-couple-covid-vaccine-indigenous-people-jail-time
"According to the Globe and Mail, he made a C$45.9m profit on stock options over the past 13 months. He is also expecting a C$28m payday when the sale of Great Canadian to an American buyer is finalized later this year"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/27/rodney-baker-canada-vaccine-indigenous-first-nations-scandal

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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:22 am

solajijic wrote:A group of Lake Chapala residents went to Florida two weeks ago for vaccine appointments  they had of course their passports, valid US drivers licenses from their former home state AND falsified Florida property leases in the county.  In and back within 3 days.

So yeah, there will be lots of moral questions.  They have obviously decided to cheat.

So they will be flying back for their second shots?

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Post by gringal Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:38 am

Some folks' "moral compass" is made of silly putty.

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Post by brigitte Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:57 am

Flying twice to the States to get a free vaccine is pretty funny when you can stay here, stay put and buy a vaccine later in this year or get vaccinated by the state if they have the vaccine you want, is pretty silly and I believe more risky. Since after the vaccine you stll have to wear a mask and stay put , I really do not see the advantage of flying back to the States or to EUrope in my case.. Imagine how many vaccine or how many people you could help with the money you are spending on the airfare alone.

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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:36 am

I think they fly there because it is available not because it's free. We won't get it here until the Fall if we are lucky....lol.

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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:43 am

Now Canada is forcing travellers to quarantine in hotels when returning or arriving. A boon for the hotel industry?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/canadian-government-to-force-incoming-travellers-into-hotels-for-quarantine/ar-BB1dd5VV?li=AAggNb9

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Post by brigitte Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:09 am

yes , they fly because it is available but by flying you take more risk than by staying home. .. Lets see if in February we can register and what kind of vaccine they will have in Jalisco.. otherwise as you say it probably will be fall.. but since we still will have to take precaution it does not make a whole lot of differnce..

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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:46 am

Well it may make a difference on whether you get the virus or not.

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Post by brigitte Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:47 pm

If you stay confined and wear masks and so on , your chances are minimal.. but life is funny sometimes..Your chances of getting it while travelling are much higher..

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Post by RickS Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:03 pm

We think so but that has not been Playaboy's experience....
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Post by brigitte Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:29 am

Some people do not get it so Payboy may be one of these lucky people.. I was just commenting to my husband that there is a lot we do not know about this virus.. How do you explain that it ravages some communities and it does othing to others?
In Chiaps people are dying in Tuxtla, Venustiano Carranza, the lacandon, Oxchuc Cancuc but they are not in Amatenango or Zinacantan..
Often the area with more deth areas in the hot lands but I know that communities like Zinacantan or Amatenango that are in cooler parts still have huge parties,wedding , baptism etc.. and there are not more death than usual? No one wear masks in these communities and they do not seem to have many sick or more death.. Lots we do not know yet..

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