This time in Mazatlan...

History has it that the Aztecs, at certain times of the year, used to perform thousands of human sacrifices per day to the gods.
Is that blood lust still in the Mexican descendant genes?

Calgary young woman in Mazatlan gets beaten so badly that most of her face bones are broken.

Why is that vicious brutality now becoming common. It is over and above criminal activity which is of course in every other country?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/23/calgary-woman-beaten-in-mexico-remains-in-coma/

Do you know who did it? Why are you putting on a Mexican? A little early to blame someone .Don´t you think.Vicious domestic fights happen in every country in the world and in this case we do not know who did it yet.
She was in a bar with her husband drinking, left with him and then what..she is found in an elevator. It does not say anywhere where the husband was when they where going from a clinic to another, a relative iditenfied her again where is the husband? There is a whole lot more to that story that the papers are reporting as usual.

As usual people jump to conclusions without facts. And to start blaming the Mexican people is ridiculous to say the least. Maybe awana needs to leave Mexico.

it can be a savage culture like the arabs. endless entertainment for people w/nothing much to do. end of case. & why read about "inside" jobs, you watch your own back. changes are this has nothing to do w/retired people. never has never will.

This discussion of the bloodlust of the Aztecs and, by inference, today´s Mexicans and the "savage" Arab cultures is repulsively racist and those initiating said posts disgust The Dawg. There were no more savage and brutal cultures than the Europeans as they formed their various states among warring tribes and then committed indescribably horrible genocide upon the peoples of the Americas, Africa and Asia. Goddamned hypocrites.

IMO mexicans can't compete with the caucasion races when it comes to brutal,savage killings on a grand scale,read your history.
Maybe you should wait till the facts are in on the Mazatlan incident before commenting on it awana.
Chris

This is one strange story, and as usual the Canadian papers are not only making a meal of it, but adding in every single thing that has ever happened to a Canadian here in about the last 5 years. Most were college kids falling off hotel balconies or walkways after drinking heavily, or getting hit by a car while drunk, confirmed by the both the Canadian and Mexican coroners, and forensic examiners here.

Something just doesn't smell right about all this. Where is the husband's statement? Where was he at 2 a.m. when she was apparently out of the room? How many women go wandering off on their own in the middle of the night in a foreign country, or at home, especially married women?

For that matter who opens their hotel door to some unknown person in the middle of the night? Would you?

yes the white european culture was savage, especially during crusader times. but you cant deny reality. chopping body parts is popular here & in the middle east. the europeans evolved. we have sociology & genetic studies to confirm basics traits. cultural & genetic. its a generality, not 100%. my own group has its stuff too, not always flattering. i myself have biological/neurological traits which were recorded back in the 15th century. its just as racist to put down whites as others. anyway, i am not the person who reports this stuff. i am only interested in whats going on HERE, how it affects me. btw, americans have committed murders here, against their wives. (2 cases)

raqueteer wrote:This is one strange story, and as usual the Canadian papers are not only making a meal of it, but adding in every single thing that has ever happened to a Canadian here in about the last 5 years. Most were college kids falling off hotel balconies or walkways after drinking heavily, or getting hit by a car while drunk, confirmed by the both the Canadian and Mexican coroners, and forensic examiners here.

Something just doesn't smell right about all this. Where is the husband's statement? Where was he at 2 a.m. when she was apparently out of the room? How many women go wandering off on their own in the middle of the night in a foreign country, or at home, especially married women?

For that matter who opens their hotel door to some unknown person in the middle of the night? Would you?

According to people I trust, the guy murdered in Melaque was accustomed to have many young Mexican visitors at his home. Some people play with fire and unfortunately get burned.

which is a pattern here, see the stats. who can have real sympathy? who opens their doors middle of night? people who want attention so badly that even in the newspapers it counts. after the fact. also besides attention, self degradation @its best. i do not want to blame the "victim (s)", but if the man had "visitors" its @his own risk. what is the deal w/the woman who was attacked?

Solovino wrote:

raqueteer wrote:This is one strange story, and as usual the Canadian papers are not only making a meal of it, but adding in every single thing that has ever happened to a Canadian here in about the last 5 years. Most were college kids falling off hotel balconies or walkways after drinking heavily, or getting hit by a car while drunk, confirmed by the both the Canadian and Mexican coroners, and forensic examiners here.

Something just doesn't smell right about all this. Where is the husband's statement? Where was he at 2 a.m. when she was apparently out of the room? How many women go wandering off on their own in the middle of the night in a foreign country, or at home, especially married women?

For that matter who opens their hotel door to some unknown person in the middle of the night? Would you?

According to people I trust, the guy murdered in Melaque was accustomed to have many young Mexican visitors at his home. Some people play with fire and unfortunately get burned.

Yeah, well just about every time I hear about some Canadian getting into trouble, it's always in the middle of the night and they've been out drinking heavily or doing other stuff they shouldn't have been up to. How about the guy who wound up with 9 bullet holes in his head in Culiacan?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/17/canadian-killed-in-area-of-mexico-embroiled-in-drug-violence/

Canadian article, no mention that this guy was thought to be involved in organized crime. Gee, ya think somebody shot him 9 times in the head for target practice? Who the hell goes to Culiacan on vacation? Anybody you guys know?????

There is more to a lot of these tragic events than is first reported. It is too bad there is very little follow up reporting done in the NOB media.

Vacation in Culiacan!Too funny!
Chris

CanuckBob wrote:There is more to a lot of these tragic events than is first reported. It is too bad there is very little follow up reporting done in the NOB media.

Right you are Bob, All the media are looking for is a dramatic headline which sells newspapers. Telling people the facts is not on their agenda. Never was, and never will be. Canada has a history of crooked newspaper owners. Check out Conrad Black currently in jail, aka Lord Black. Last but far from least Maxwell Aitken aka Lord Beaverbrook. If he'd stayed in Canada he'd have been charged with securities fraud. Canada Cement deal 1910.

@ Chris, we didn't even like driving around Culiacan on our trips to Sonora. Leave Mazatlan first thing in the morning, unless you've had the crap beat outta you, and keep going till you hit San Carlos no matter how long it takes.

Culiacan gives me the creeps and I dont get them easily.
The Culiacan case reminds me of the dope dealers from BC who got it in Vallarta a couple of years ago,dont remember much about the case except that the RCM already had their number and that they were wearing fanny packs when they got their tickets punched.
Chris

viajero wrote:Culiacan gives me the creeps and I dont get them easily.
The Culiacan case reminds me of the dope dealers from BC who got it in Vallarta a couple of years ago,dont remember much about the case except that the RCM already had their number and that they were wearing fanny packs when they got their tickets punched.
Chris

Yep, then there were the couple from Woodbridge Ontario, got their tickets punched in Cancun. Hmmm, can we say rubbed out?

Then there were the two Vancouver cholos who were gunned down at a taco stand in GDL a couple of years ago. We appreciated that one.......

At present in the Western world there is no other country that is generating so much blood and guts than Mexico. Dismembered bodies, acid baths, corpses hanging or sprawled on roadways and tourists being viciously assaulted. Every Mexican in the Tourist trade, cop or gov't worker alike is out to get all they can get..through hook or crook.

This was the second assault near that Hotel in Mazatlan. The other was unconscious for 7 days or so and his family was taken for all they could pay. From experience I find it entirely believable that taxi drivers do get kick backs by bringing patient to clinics as opposed to hospitals, as it happened to both of these serious cases.

Read this.. and maybe again you can say it is not Mexican thugs or that this is racist. Up yours dawg.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ontario-man-wont-back-mexico-attack-223015440.html

Awana, is Brazil, Columbia, Haiti and the USA considered part of the western world? If so, there are a few articles that suggest your opinion may be over stated. I couldn't even find Mexico on any of these lists however some of them are a couple of years old.........

http://www.travelersdigest.com/top_dangerous_locations.htm

http://rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/08/07/the_worlds_10_most_dangerous_countries

http://ezinearticles.com/?Worlds-Most-Dangerous-Countries-for-Tourists&id=1035438

Here are a few links to the worlds most dangerous cities (not countries):

http://rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/08/07/the_worlds_10_most_dangerous_countries

http://www.mostdangerouscities.org/

http://urbantitan.com/10-most-dangerous-cities-on-the-world-in-2010/


Now a couple of these lists includes Ciudad Juarez. No argument there. That is one bad ass place.

awana wrote:At present in the Western world there is no other country that is generating so much blood and guts than Mexico. Dismembered bodies, acid baths, corpses hanging or sprawled on roadways and tourists being viciously assaulted. Every Mexican in the Tourist trade, cop or gov't worker alike is out to get all they can get..through hook or crook.

This was the second assault near that Hotel in Mazatlan. The other was unconscious for 7 days or so and his family was taken for all they could pay. From experience I find it entirely believable that taxi drivers do get kick backs by bringing patient to clinics as opposed to hospitals, as it happened to both of these serious cases.

Read this.. and maybe again you can say it is not Mexican thugs or that this is racist. Up yours dawg.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ontario-man-wont-back-mexico-attack-223015440.html

awana would you mind providing a link, the National does not say that this woman was taken to a local clinic by cab, it states that she is in Sharps hospital.
Once again, where was her husband? Where were the hotel staff? How could a cab driver get in and basically abduct this woman from the elevator of the hotel.
The first man says he has no recollection of what happened. NONE. So how is it possible that you can claim he was beaten by Mexican thugs? Maybe he got into a donnybrook with some fellow tourists.
Furthermore, how many tourists are attacked in Canada or the United States every year? One, five, 10, 20? 100? Over the past five years approximately 15 Canadians have died here by homicide. That makes an average of 3 per year. As we have been discussing some (many) were involved in high risk activities.
According to Canadian Statistics, over the past 5 years roughly 3,000 people have been murdered in Canada. Seems like Canada is far more dangerous for Canadians. I might add, as a Canadian citizen and discussing rip offs here in Mexico, very few compare with the scam perpetrated on us by the Canadian Health Care system, which charged $2,000 a day for my husband who was suffering with pneumonia and left him next to where they wash the bedpans in emergency for 2 days, failed to insert his IV line correctly resulting in insufficient antibiotic, refused to see him, although he arrived by ambulance until I produced a credit card despite having insurance, and the list goes on.......

Your remarks are racists. You are blaming all Mexicans for the crimes of a few, that is pretty despicable.
You are implying that everyone conspiring to steal from tourists and rob them. You are manipulated by the press and do not even know it.

So far we do not know anything about either attack. Crazed people can be found anywhere unfortunately no need to blame Mexico.
None of the stories explain what really happened so we can make up our own versions.The justifications reflect your state of mind not reality.
If this happen close to the hotel maybe the hotel has an employee who is bezerk.
We do not know at this time and may never know.

raqueteer wrote:

awana wrote:At present in the Western world there is no other country that is generating so much blood and guts than Mexico. Dismembered bodies, acid baths, corpses hanging or sprawled on roadways and tourists being viciously assaulted. Every Mexican in the Tourist trade, cop or gov't worker alike is out to get all they can get..through hook or crook.

This was the second assault near that Hotel in Mazatlan. The other was unconscious for 7 days or so and his family was taken for all they could pay. From experience I find it entirely believable that taxi drivers do get kick backs by bringing patient to clinics as opposed to hospitals, as it happened to both of these serious cases.

Read this.. and maybe again you can say it is not Mexican thugs or that this is racist. Up yours dawg.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ontario-man-wont-back-mexico-attack-223015440.html

awana would you mind providing a link, the National does not say that this woman was taken to a local clinic by cab, it states that she is in Sharps hospital.
Once again, where was her husband? Where were the hotel staff? How could a cab driver get in and basically abduct this woman from the elevator of the hotel.
The first man says he has no recollection of what happened. NONE. So how is it possible that you can claim he was beaten by Mexican thugs? Maybe he got into a donnybrook with some fellow tourists.
Furthermore, how many tourists are attacked in Canada or the United States every year? One, five, 10, 20? 100? Over the past five years approximately 15 Canadians have died here by homicide. That makes an average of 3 per year. As we have been discussing some (many) were involved in high risk activities.
According to Canadian Statistics, over the past 5 years roughly 3,000 people have been murdered in Canada. Seems like Canada is far more dangerous for Canadians. I might add, as a Canadian citizen and discussing rip offs here in Mexico, very few compare with the scam perpetrated on us by the Canadian Health Care system, which charged $2,000 a day for my husband who was suffering with pneumonia and left him next to where they wash the bedpans in emergency for 2 days, failed to insert his IV line correctly resulting in insufficient antibiotic, refused to see him, although he arrived by ambulance until I produced a credit card despite having insurance, and the list goes on.......

Now it is a bit ridiculous to claim that Canada, as a whole, is more dangerous than Mexico as we all know that is not true however there are certainly places in Canada (and the USA) that are easily as dangerous as any place in Mexico. I would actually like to see some stats on how many tourists (not expats) are assaulted or killed in Canada and the US each year. That would be an apples to apples comparison..

Just meeting one ridiculous claim with another C.B., for emphasis.

I would also like to see an apples to apples comparison, however the National is hardly going to give us those numbers, are they?

Here is an article that talks about comparisons between Mexico, the US and Canada.

http://www.mexicomike.com/safety/safety-UsStateDepartment.html