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Ajijic pronunciation redux

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Post by RoofBob Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:50 am

Just an FYI for anyone interested:

A snipped from Dane Chandos book VILLAGE IN THE SUN published in the early 1940's where she sounds out and explains the hows and whys of pronouncing "Ajijic".

"Ajijic. Say Ach-ich-ee, with the ch as in Scottish loch, and the tonic accent on the last syllable. By the rules of Spanish the final c should be pronounced, but when anyone pronounces it, we Ajijiquenses know he is a stranger hereabouts. The name used to be written Axixique, a Spanish corruption of a Nahuatl name that means The Place Where the Water Springs."

The book is a great read and available free online.
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Post by DuckieHoomever Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:57 pm

Hola, Bob. Can you provide a link to finding this book free online? I haven't had any luck in an exhaustive 3-minute search. Thanks.

Duckie, just returned from Lakeside to Missouri, where an ice storm looms tomorrow. Sheesh.

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Post by Jeff Raybourne Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:26 pm

There was no Spanish corruption of the word. Nahuatl was not a written language and the Spanish had to write the words via phonetics in the same manner that other languages of different alphabets are transliterated. The x was used for the phoneme -sh which wasn't found in Castellano but quite commonly used in Nahuatl. Over time the letter x has been replaced by the letter j in many words in Mexico. And the final c is used by most Mexicans regardless of what some pretentious gringos liked to have claimed.

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Post by RoofBob Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:47 pm

Here's a link to the book Duckie:

https://archive.org/details/villageinthesun007022mbp
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Post by brigitte Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:59 pm

Just because Dane Chandos heard it that way , it does not mean it is correct. I would not use an American expat to learn how to say Ajijic ....just saying.

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Post by TrueBrit Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:13 pm

Redux was pronounced Re-dush, but now the x is silent (for those in the know)

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Post by Zedinmexico Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:41 am

So Ah he heek is wrong??

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Post by Jeff Raybourne Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:42 am

Zedinmexico wrote:So Ah he heek is wrong??

No.

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Post by Pedro Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:16 am

and i pronounce it any way i wish because i can. sometimes when i say it, it comes out sounding like gringo ghetto-SNORK!
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Post by CheenaGringo Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:34 am

We were talking to a Canadian in Tlaquepaque whose cousin owned a place he called Chaaaa-paala. Was that pronunciation because he could?

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Post by Smartalex Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:40 am

I hear it pronounced Chuu-paala a lot.
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Post by CheenaGringo Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:47 am

Both are not nearly as bad as Guad!

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Post by Pedro Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:27 pm

or joco
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:42 pm

For some reason, Joco bothers me more than Guad does.
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Post by slainte39 Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:51 pm

Old people with a shortage of breath unable to navigate multiple syllables????   Try Parangaricutirimícuaro.     Very Happy

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Post by Trailrunner Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:53 pm

"Joco" is a term of endearment.
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Post by Jeff Raybourne Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:23 pm

Joco is used by locals.

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