Shoot-out in Chapala

Here is the official report from the Guadalajara Reporter:

http://www.guadalajarareporter.com/news-mainmenu-82/lake-chapala-mainmenu-84/29588-chapala-police-take-down-armed-gang-in-downtown-shootout-two-dead-.html

Sure glad the Superior restaurant is OK., one of my favs, and no locals hurt.

As a follow-up, here is a report (Google translation) from INFORMADOR:

"Three of the five involved in the fray are recovering in the Old Civil Hospital
Chapala, Jalisco (16/SEP/2011) .- The five detained after a clash between armed men against Chapala municipal police during Monday night and Tuesday morning have been available to the authorities, two of them have been recorded, while the remaining three are recovering in the Old Civil Hospital. Among those arrested were: Alfonso Carrillo langurs, age 42 years, Mark Fregoso López, alias "El Nene" Adrián Cardona Oscar Marquez, nicknamed "The Chinese "Eduardo Ramirez Ordaz from Michoacan, and a young woman, whose identity was not disclosed because it is a minor. The five were available to the Twelfth Court of Assizes, based in Puente Grande. The quintet faces murder charges in attempted, crimes against authority figures and organized crime. The apprehension of the five, occurred overnight Monday and early Tuesday, when he starred in a firefight with elements of Chapala Malecon just blocks from where two hit men ended up dead, while the rest were captured by local actors. In the area also were two pickup trucks, a Nissan Titan and Ford Focus, which also found weapons. The trial judge will have a term of up to six days to decide whether the detainees were ruled to approve the detention order. On Tuesday, referring to clashes between gunmen in the town of Chapala, Attorney State Attorney General, Tomas Coronado Olmos, announced that those involved are part of the criminal group "The Resistance", according to statements by elements of the Public Security Directorate Chapala."

Looks like the Resistance found some resistance and lost. Bravo Chapala Police!

Sounds like the tables may be turning. So nice that the Good Guys are on the winning side for a change. Hopefully the low lifes will take note and pass on Lakeside.

Ya know Kippi, I think you are on to something and the tables may be turning. It's probably just wishful thinking but I am seeing a 180 change in attitude, tactics and state help while living across the street from the cop shop. These guys don't walk to their vehicles to respond to a call now, they run. And they don't turn on their sirens and overhead light bars when responding and at night they keep their headlights off, same with the motorcycle guys. Another interesting development today is that there is an ambulance sized white van parked in front of the station and 2 sedans with the words, Laboratorio Movil Forense and logo with the letters LJCF and a fingerprint design within the letter C. At least for the present the grab-ass'n is over and these boys have a whole new attitude.

That's GREAT news! With a few victories under their belts they should start feeling more pride in their work. Glad to see it. Always getting trounced and not having the back up they needed didn't help. I think once you're the hero..the whole game changes. About time...now lets hope they can afford to up their pay a little. Even when you don't get shot...the fear factor probably takes years off your life!

Perhaps we’re looking at “Elliot Ness vs. Al Capone”. History does repeat itself.

Dream on, people.

Solovino wrote:Dream on, people.

IT WILL GET WORSE... before it gets better.....I think the Chapala episode is tip of the iceberg .

Solovino wrote:Dream on, people.

I do believe those are almost the exact words spoken to “Elliot Ness”, you give, to many, much hope!

Jim W wrote:

Solovino wrote:Dream on, people.

IT WILL GET WORSE... before it gets better.....I think the Chapala episode is tip of the iceberg .

Lets hope.

I really think this thread should be moved to Octagon

Jim W wrote:I really think this thread should be moved to Octagon

Why, no one has been uncivil or do you really have something that needs to be said?

Parker wrote:

Jim W wrote:I really think this thread should be moved to Octagon

Why, no one has been uncivil or do you really have something that needs to be said?

Parker nothing about uncivil......we agreed to keep theseissues @ lakeside....for members

Actually here is my take on these matters.........

When issues are in the "rumour" phase or at least "unsubstantiated" they should be kept in the members only area until all the facts are out however once they are confirmed with media reports then they should be out in the open. That is the reason I started this second thread with the actual media report from the Guad Reporter that is available to the general public.

What is it with "members" trying to tell CB how to run his forum?

I'm always open to suggestions and advice CG............I just think it is irresponsible to put unsubstantiated events into the open as many guests won't know all the facts and may jump to conclusions. Mexico has a bad enough rap without us fueling the fires. I do think Intercasa's and 007's blow by blow report was riveting however we didn't really know what was happening at the time.

Hey CG, if WE won't tell Bob how to run this thing who will? Good work Bob, I appreciate you keeping the rumors non-public.

Exactly my point, David, as he is doing a damned good job on his own!

This is total BS.....why haven't you ...CB opened substantiated "Rumors"...from the Octagon......after all they are open to public....may be you should create a holding in Octagon....for release if unfounded.....I don't get it...but then again I am dumber than a post....LOL....Please explain....why virtually everything regarding neg Chapala is hidden on Octagon....yet this thread lives on

Oh lord...here we go again. Last time he was sucking up...Bob was the goat.

And I thought it was for our protection to discuss those things in the Octagon.

Okay, let me see if I get what Bob is saying. I'll speak real slow.

If a neg a tive thread is sub stan ti a ted ,

like the ar ti cle in the pa per ,

then it can go in reg u lar post ings.

If the neg a tive is a rum or or un sub stan tiat ed it goes in Octagon.

New bies should get facts not ru mors.

If they reg is ter, they can get it all

Bob's board

Bob's rules

I happen to agree and apparently others do too

C-Bobs board, C-Bobs rules and if you disagree then convince him otherwise. If not and you still want to play, play by his rules. Is this all that hard to understand? I like his personal leaning so I’ll play, my choice.