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Do we have the money and guts to do this anymore?

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Post by Zedinmexico Thu May 16, 2013 4:03 pm

We were talking about the Bowie Space Oddity song from the International Space Station (See music section if you want to see what we are talking about) and ...


Borderreiver said

The space station, itself, is now old


Zed says now
All our great things are getting old right?


Yep and this scares me. Do we still have the money and guts to do stuff like this anymore? The ISS was an amazing international project. Can we do it
again? Can we do another upgrade to Hubble? Do we even care about space? My wife doesn't get space and thinks we should work on earth with the
money. I want to go set up perm. stuff on the moon or go to mars. Yes I have no idea how to pay for it.

What do you think??
Is my wife right and all this is a huge waste of money or should we continue to move on. (Hey maybe I watch too much star trek crapola LOL)

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Post by CanuckBob Thu May 16, 2013 4:41 pm

For the long range survival of the human race another planet will be necessary. This one won't last forever.
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Post by David Thu May 16, 2013 4:43 pm

The space program is one of the best things ever done by the USA. There have been many dirivitives and spin-off technologies from the investment that began during the Kennedy administration. Consider which made you feel more proud to be an American; going to the moon or going to Iraq. BTW, it was cheaper to go to the moon. It will cost less to go to Mars than to go to Syria IMHO.
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Post by CanuckBob Thu May 16, 2013 4:45 pm

Totally agree. Turn the war machine into a space exploration machine.
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Post by zenwoodle Thu May 16, 2013 8:17 pm

Turn the war machine off.

Turn the space machine on.

Forget about conservation, the population grows too much to ever last on this planet.

Let's get out of here. I volunteer to go first. (although many have suggested that I should leave some time ago).

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Post by borderreiver Fri May 17, 2013 9:54 am

The "Fed" gave $600 - $800 billion, and no doubt more to the banks to provide stimulus to a weakened economy weakened by "THE BANKS". THEY took those $ and lessened their loans to each other and fueled their bonuses, further weakening the REAL economy.The GREED factor is systemic and integral to so much now. JFK got it. Yes ,there was a Cold War race going on, but the spinoff(s) gave us our modern world with it's current technology. Shit, let's go to Mars, if only for the exercise. Banks - No. Mars - Yes. Imagine the spinoffs from that endeavour. Bernake said it - Money, REAL MONEY, does not exist any more, it's just i's and o's on a computer screen.
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Post by halcon Fri May 17, 2013 10:14 am

we need some kind of vision that unites humanity. god aint cuttin' it, and breeding is
here to stay. i'm afraid that the chiselers are part of the fabric as well. whoa is us
without a new vision for man/womankind. war is a reflection of of how unevolved
we are. gotta let that shit go.
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Post by Tony_In_Mexico Fri May 17, 2013 12:36 pm

borderreiver wrote:The "Fed" gave $600 - $800 billion, and no doubt more to the banks to provide stimulus to a weakened economy weakened by "THE BANKS". THEY took those $ and lessened their loans to each other and fueled their bonuses, further weakening the REAL economy.The GREED factor is systemic and integral to so much now. JFK got it. Yes ,there was a Cold War race going on, but the spinoff(s) gave us our modern world with it's current technology. Shit, let's go to Mars, if only for the exercise. Banks - No. Mars - Yes. Imagine the spinoffs from that endeavour. Bernake said it - Money, REAL MONEY, does not exist any more, it's just i's and o's on a computer screen.

While I agree with your sentiment, I'm pretty sure you mean 1's and 0's. I's and O's are just letters indicating, apparently, that you owe someone. Hmm, maybe you got it right the first time.

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Post by tictoc Fri May 17, 2013 3:15 pm

Tony_In_Mexico wrote:
borderreiver wrote:The "Fed" gave $600 - $800 billion, and no doubt more to the banks to provide stimulus to a weakened economy weakened by "THE BANKS". THEY took those $ and lessened their loans to each other and fueled their bonuses, further weakening the REAL economy.The GREED factor is systemic and integral to so much now. JFK got it. Yes ,there was a Cold War race going on, but the spinoff(s) gave us our modern world with it's current technology. Shit, let's go to Mars, if only for the exercise. Banks - No. Mars - Yes. Imagine the spinoffs from that endeavour. Bernake said it - Money, REAL MONEY, does not exist any more, it's just i's and o's on a computer screen.

While I agree with your sentiment, I'm pretty sure you mean 1's and 0's. I's and O's are just letters indicating, apparently, that you owe someone. Hmm, maybe you got it right the first time.
lol I was thinking the same thing 0100100100100111011011010010000001110100011010000110010100100000011011010110000101101110

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Post by Zedinmexico Fri May 17, 2013 3:44 pm

tictoc wrote:
Tony_In_Mexico wrote:
borderreiver wrote:The "Fed" gave $600 - $800 billion, and no doubt more to the banks to provide stimulus to a weakened economy weakened by "THE BANKS". THEY took those $ and lessened their loans to each other and fueled their bonuses, further weakening the REAL economy.The GREED factor is systemic and integral to so much now. JFK got it. Yes ,there was a Cold War race going on, but the spinoff(s) gave us our modern world with it's current technology. Shit, let's go to Mars, if only for the exercise. Banks - No. Mars - Yes. Imagine the spinoffs from that endeavour. Bernake said it - Money, REAL MONEY, does not exist any more, it's just i's and o's on a computer screen.

While I agree with your sentiment, I'm pretty sure you mean 1's and 0's. I's and O's are just letters indicating, apparently, that you owe someone. Hmm, maybe you got it right the first time.
lol I was thinking the same thing 0100100100100111011011010010000001110100011010000110010100100000011011010110000101101110


Hey its not nice to say "0100100100100111011011010010000001110100011010000110010100100000011011010110000101101110" Go to your
room and count in Octal until I tell you that you can come out.

Z

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Post by JayBear Fri May 17, 2013 4:00 pm

Back to the subject: Recently theoretical physicist and cosmologist Stephen Hawking declared that mankind faces two options: Either we colonize space within the next two hundred years and build residential units on other planets or we will face the prospect of long-term extinction. ("Mankind must colonize other planets to survive, says Hawking". Daily Mail(London). 2006-12-01)

I am not so sure it is a good idea to save the human race. We probably follow in a long line of extinct species who blew their opportunities because they were too self-centered. And remember Clark Kent was not doing all that well on another planet--no one paid much attention except Lois.

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Post by tictoc Fri May 17, 2013 5:13 pm

Zedinmexico wrote:
tictoc wrote:
Tony_In_Mexico wrote:
borderreiver wrote:The "Fed" gave $600 - $800 billion, and no doubt more to the banks to provide stimulus to a weakened economy weakened by "THE BANKS". THEY took those $ and lessened their loans to each other and fueled their bonuses, further weakening the REAL economy.The GREED factor is systemic and integral to so much now. JFK got it. Yes ,there was a Cold War race going on, but the spinoff(s) gave us our modern world with it's current technology. Shit, let's go to Mars, if only for the exercise. Banks - No. Mars - Yes. Imagine the spinoffs from that endeavour. Bernake said it - Money, REAL MONEY, does not exist any more, it's just i's and o's on a computer screen.

While I agree with your sentiment, I'm pretty sure you mean 1's and 0's. I's and O's are just letters indicating, apparently, that you owe someone. Hmm, maybe you got it right the first time.
lol I was thinking the same thing 0100100100100111011011010010000001110100011010000110010100100000011011010110000101101110


Hey its not nice to say "0100100100100111011011010010000001110100011010000110010100100000011011010110000101101110" Go to your
room and count in Octal until I tell you that you can come out.

Z
But but but, you just don't understand... 44447332201643206200000000000

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Post by Zedinmexico Sat May 18, 2013 7:32 am

tictoc wrote:
Zedinmexico wrote:
tictoc wrote:
Tony_In_Mexico wrote:
borderreiver wrote:The "Fed" gave $600 - $800 billion, and no doubt more to the banks to provide stimulus to a weakened economy weakened by "THE BANKS". THEY took those $ and lessened their loans to each other and fueled their bonuses, further weakening the REAL economy.The GREED factor is systemic and integral to so much now. JFK got it. Yes ,there was a Cold War race going on, but the spinoff(s) gave us our modern world with it's current technology. Shit, let's go to Mars, if only for the exercise. Banks - No. Mars - Yes. Imagine the spinoffs from that endeavour. Bernake said it - Money, REAL MONEY, does not exist any more, it's just i's and o's on a computer screen.

While I agree with your sentiment, I'm pretty sure you mean 1's and 0's. I's and O's are just letters indicating, apparently, that you owe someone. Hmm, maybe you got it right the first time.
lol I was thinking the same thing 0100100100100111011011010010000001110100011010000110010100100000011011010110000101101110


Hey its not nice to say "0100100100100111011011010010000001110100011010000110010100100000011011010110000101101110" Go to your
room and count in Octal until I tell you that you can come out.



Z
But but but, you just don't understand... 44447332201643206200000000000


Cool Octal!

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