mañana mañana

The following link should be required reading for any expat in Mexico.

Time, or the Zen of the Mexican Queue

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/opinion/time-or-the-zen-of-the-mexican-queue/

Yes!

You can try something like, “¿Mañana, por la mañana, precisamente a las ocho y media de la mañana, sin dudo?“, and........maybe; maybe not.

Discussing the meaning of the word mañana, like discussing the origin and use of the word gringo are as tiresome as the idiotic sink de mayo schtick.

Clete wrote:Discussing the meaning of the word mañana, like discussing the origin and use of the word gringo are as tiresome as the idiotic sink de mayo schtick.

You are missing the point. The post is not about the word mañana. It's a little lesson on Mexican culture. Why don't you read the link to find out what it's about?

Jreboll wrote:It should be "sink du mayo."

It is supposed to read sinko de mayo but the autocorrect on my new Mac computer keeps changing spellings on me!

papa chango wrote:

Clete wrote:Discussing the meaning of the word mañana, like discussing the origin and use of the word gringo are as tiresome as the idiotic sink de mayo schtick.

You are missing the point. The post is not about the word mañana. It's a little lesson on Mexican culture. Why don't you read the link to find out what it's about?

I know what it is all about. My mistake was using the word "meaning", which you apparently assumed meant "definition". I should have instead used the phrase "discussing the concept of mañana".

You also assumed that I need a gringo "writer" to explain to me Mexican culture. I am confident I know much more about culture in this country than you or the author of your lesson.

Why so cranky, Clete?

Lady Otter Latté wrote:Why so cranky, Clete?

I dunno. One of those days. And I have little patience for stupid assumptions accompanied by a patronising attitude.

Okay. Thanks for answering my question. I did not take the essay all that seriously or personally so I didn't understand your response to it.

This same post on TOB resulting in a cascade of "If you don't like it, go home" and other assholeries.

Everybody is an expert on living in and understanding the culture of Mexico......
It's like the terrain....all different.

slainte39 wrote:Everybody is an expert on living in and understanding the culture of Mexico......
It's like the terrain....all different.

Especially internet "writers".

I just live here. I watch. I listen. I learn. I laugh, get frustrated, understand, get confused. Most of all, I appreciate the kindness, attempts to understand me, help, and concern of people around me. I understand the people and culture a lot more than I did when I came here eight years ago. I know enough to know I have barely scratched the surface of all there is to know.

Clete wrote:

slainte39 wrote:Everybody is an expert on living in and understanding the culture of Mexico......
It's like the terrain....all different.

Especially internet "writers".

A double.......

Lady Otter Latté wrote:I just live here. I watch. I listen. I learn. I laugh, get frustrated, understand, get confused. Most of all, I appreciate the kindness, attempts to understand me, help, and concern of people around me. I understand the people and culture a lot more than I did when I came here eight years ago. I know enough to know I have barely scratched the surface of all there is to know.

You'll know your immersed when you start wondering what culture you came from.

slainte39 wrote:

Lady Otter Latté wrote:I just live here. I watch. I listen. I learn. I laugh, get frustrated, understand, get confused. Most of all, I appreciate the kindness, attempts to understand me, help, and concern of people around me. I understand the people and culture a lot more than I did when I came here eight years ago. I know enough to know I have barely scratched the surface of all there is to know.

You'll know your immersed when you start wondering what culture you came from.

For some, that would be from a petri dish.

the mañana thing is just another stereotype , there are plenty of Mexicans who are sticklers on time.. my doctor is one also a couple of friends, one a business man and one an artist go crazy when people are late and do not call to let them know..human beings are human beings and no matter in which culture they live there is a little bit of every type..
You have themañana attitude in Hawaii , Africa in general and many other cultures probably but that does notmean everyone in those culture go along with it or are happy about it..

Clete wrote:

slainte39 wrote:

Lady Otter Latté wrote:I just live here. I watch. I listen. I learn. I laugh, get frustrated, understand, get confused. Most of all, I appreciate the kindness, attempts to understand me, help, and concern of people around me. I understand the people and culture a lot more than I did when I came here eight years ago. I know enough to know I have barely scratched the surface of all there is to know.

You'll know your immersed when you start wondering what culture you came from.

For some, that would be from a petri dish.

Clete wrote, "And I have little patience for stupid assumptions accompanied by a patronising attitude." Indeed.

There are island cultures, where an isolated village of fewer than 100 people may have no concept of personal property. They live a communal life, which can cause problems with visiting sailors, who may take things ashore, along with their tools, to make repairs. The work can bring on a need for a quick dip in the sea to cool down. Nudity is accepted; the ocean is very relaxing as you float about. Meanwhile, your tools and even your clothing may be finding new uses in other parts of the village. The only solution is to wait, wait and wait some more; until you find them unused and have the opportunity to “use them“ again, yourself, and quickly get them off the shore and back onto your vessel.

Is that Gilligan's Island, RV?

brigitte wrote:the mañana  thing is just another stereotype , there are plenty of Mexicans who are sticklers on time.. my doctor is one also a couple of friends, one a business man and one an artist go crazy when people are late and do not call to let them know..human beings are human beings and no matter in which culture they live there is a little bit of every type..
You have themañana attitude in Hawaii , Africa in general and many other cultures probably but that does notmean everyone in those culture go along with it or are happy about it..

I totally agree. All the contractors and workers (including my maid & gardener) that I deal with are very punctual. The ones that aren't don't get anymore work from me.

No, not a Gilligan in sight.
Nuku Hiva was where it happened. It is quite an interesting game. It has to be, as a true criminal has no escape from an island. Little was done that was not fun.  Holy cow!  It was over 40 years ago!  Now, the place has been discovered, and it is barely recognizable......sad.