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Post by cypress on Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:23 pm

kiko wrote:Gas robado available in Nextipac 500p/20 ltrs.  
Interesting. I have never seen such before.

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Post by Trailrunner on Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:41 pm

kiko wrote:Gas robado available in Nextipac 500p/20 ltrs.  

Blatantly, Kiko, like on the carretera or ya gotta know somebody?
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Post by kiko on Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:44 pm

Not a safe place to buy if you ask me. There are many remote areas in Michoacan where the only option is barrel gas probably robado. Lots of closed Pemexes in those mountains of the Purépecha. The only game in town.

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Post by kiko on Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:48 pm

Up Colon at the top. Colon is the street that runs alongside the East Pemex. Probably anyone in Nextipac knows. Not a particularly safe area.

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Post by cypress on Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:06 pm

You have to wonder if we are heading to a war between the government and the cartels and who would win.

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Post by Trailrunner on Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:23 pm

cypress wrote:You have to wonder if we are heading to a war between the government and the cartels and who would win.

I think we absolutely are! Esp after reading that article in RS.

The only way I can see the gov winning is if they shut down all pipelines and distribute by pipas with well-paid military escort. And orders to shoot to kill.
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Post by brigitte on Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:54 pm

The government is first gong after Pemex and the station that are not going to buy what obviously they should be.. if a lot of the demand or clientes are buying legal gas the cartels will have to look somewhere lese.. or threaten th gas station that do not buy from them.. We mat see less gas stations if that happens...

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Post by Trailrunner on Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:57 pm

Agree. That is the first step. Might be rocky going for awhile. . .

I juat saw a headline - Feds bought 571 tankers.
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Post by kiko on Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:08 pm

I think you could protect pipelines with a system of electronic sensors. The US has thousands of miles of pipelines and I do not remember of any terrorists attacks on these systems that were successful.

http://www.pki-electronic.com/products/police-customs-and-military-equipment/protection-system-of-oil-and-gas-pipelines/

Or you could build a wall to encase the pipeline and make Rudy Giuliano pay for it.

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Post by brigitte on Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:42 pm

THe US does not have the cartels that have been stealing gas for years and all of a sudden will be deprived from millions ..and wll do everything they can to keep their business. Yes they probably need electronic surveillance, actually they probably can see on their screen when the pressure goes down on part of the pipeline then they have to send the army and make sure they are not outgunned.. probably not that easy..

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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:55 am

I would focus on the gas stations that sell stolen fuel. Take away the means of selling it in such large quantities.

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Post by Trailrunner on Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:24 am

Sounds like he's going to do all these things. Bravo!! Gov has received over 6000 applications to drive the tanker trucks. Creating jobs as well. Double Bravo. This is an interesting historical time to be living in Mexico, could be inconvenient at times and maybe dangerous as the corrupt fight back. Hope it works for this good country and these good people.
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:48 am

Tis true. Has anyone seen any station's open this morning?

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Post by dcampbell757 on Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:56 am

From Semenario Laguna, Jan 21
Editorial .- A few hours after being reopened the gasoline pipe Salamanca-Guadalajara, have already been reported three holes, which have been repaired as quickly as possible.

In this regard, the director of PEMEX, Octavio Romero Oropeza, said that the pipeline continues to operate normally, as the mishaps were repaired in a matter of hours, but stressed that Jalisco is one of the states with more problems to normalize the supply of fuel through this type of practices.

As commented by Romero Oropeza, the first drilling occurred around 10:00 in the morning. The pipeline was closed for repair until 4:30 in the afternoon. Minutes later a second leak was reported that caused the flow to be prevented again to repair it, reopening it at 6:30 in the afternoon, and the third perforation was reported minutes after opening causing its closure until approximately 8:05 pm .

In spite of the facts, a recovery is foreseen in the next days in question to the shortage of gasoline for the municipalities of the State of Jalisco.

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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:05 am

Those pipes probably aren't used to having full pressure in them now that all the illegal taps have been removed.

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Post by dcampbell757 on Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:07 am

Interesting time.

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Post by Problem Child on Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:29 am

My biggest worry/concern is that the cartels will want to terminate the President. With him gone, who else would step in and do what he is doing?

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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:36 am

Has anyone seen any station's open this morning?

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Post by SunshineyDay on Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:57 am

Just left Riberas------no gas

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Post by Marrell on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:03 am

At 9:30 this am none in Ajijic.

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Post by kiko on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:11 am

East Pemex has gas again now. East line shorter than west line

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Post by SunFan on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:53 am

Riberas had gas at 7:30 this morning. 30 minute wait for 500 pesos. No premium. Well organized.

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Post by windrider17 on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:01 am

Agustin just posted gas in SJC.

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Post by kiko on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:36 am

windrider17 wrote:Agustin just posted gas in SJC.
No gas in SJC as of 11:34am. Maybe he is referencing the station east of Pierda Barrenada

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Post by oatsie on Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:29 pm

GasGas app shows available at station on Main street into Joco, west of the mountain by-pass.
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Post by Problem Child on Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:00 pm

oatsie wrote:GasGas app shows available at station on Main street into Joco, west of the mountain by-pass.

Problem is, who knows what it would be when you get there? Plus, the gas it takes to get there. And what if it's only $500 worth being sold per person?

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