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Post by CanuckBob on Sun May 12, 2019 9:36 am

Hopefully all except Crystal Meth and Fentanyl. Those ones should carry a mandatory life sentence for producers and dealers.

https://www.newsweek.com/mexico-decriminalize-drugs-negotiate-us-1421395

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Post by Intercasa on Sun May 12, 2019 9:51 am

Im against it, lessen pot penalties but keep the others illegal. There are too many living extremely well off crime in Mexico and they will not suddenly accept a pay cut and look to getting a real job that pays per their level of education which would be 200 pesos a day, if that, especially after earning thousands of pesos a week.

Many people earn money off drugs, the police, the authorities at all levels, attorneys, those who sell goods and services to the aforementioned. Many people look the other way and profit from criminal activity, a good chunk of people in the country like you have never imagined.

Then bad guys will continue being bad guys and rob, rape, torture, extort, kidnap and murder. I prefer to keep them in the drug trade where they can murder each other and not mess with the normal people.
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Post by CanuckBob on Sun May 12, 2019 10:12 am

Interesting take on it. Portugal is one country that has decriminalized all drugs and are reporting good things. I imagine they have bad guys there too. So following your train of thought, AMLO should have just let the bad guys keep stealing the gasoline? What are they doing for money now?

https://www.mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/portugal-drug-decriminalization-statistics

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun May 12, 2019 10:25 am

Also, I thought Mexico did decriminalize possession of minor quantities of most drugs several years ago. No?

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1918725,00.html

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Post by Tiny on Sun May 12, 2019 10:44 am

[quote="CanuckBob"]Interesting take on it. Portugal is one country that has decriminalized all drugs and are reporting good things. I imagine they have bad guys there too. So following your train of thought, AMLO should have just let the bad guys keep stealing the gasoline? What are they doing for money now?

https://www.mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/portugal-drug-decriminalization-statistics[/quote]

What I am not clear on is who the decriminalization is for, user, provider, or both? Several of the articles seemed to be talking about the users, not the providers.

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Post by borderreiver on Sun May 12, 2019 8:29 pm

Kinda like the Philippine solution.
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Post by SunFan on Sun May 12, 2019 9:45 pm

I agree with Spencer insofar as what the gangs will turn to if drugs are no longer a source of income - extortion; kidnapping; human trafficking; robbery. Gringos may no longer be spared.

Desperate people with no other viable future.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun May 12, 2019 10:02 pm

Usually decriminalization means the user doesn't go to jail. It becomes a civil matter. The producers and dealer's still get charged criminally.

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Post by ferret on Sun May 12, 2019 10:06 pm

Unless your dealer is the government as in Canada. They get their taxes and you get a known product that is grown properly and tested.
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Post by CanuckBob on Sun May 12, 2019 10:14 pm

Yeppers!! But that was full legalization not decriminalization.

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Post by borderreiver on Mon May 13, 2019 1:12 am

The jury's still out on that "ferret". Hopefully it will all come together. Prohibition sure sucks. Like we're morons. One day shit prison abuse, the next WE need a consultant. LCBC, British Columbia's provincial/state sin monopoly got on board pretty quick, check out the web site. Oh, they're out of CBD. Management might want to wander on down to the loading dock and hook up. Still amazed after all these years.
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Post by ferret on Mon May 13, 2019 8:36 am

They're out of CBD in Ontario as well as I have been searching for a friend who just returned there. And that's what most people want. Supply and demand. Hopefully the GUV will figure it out sooner or later.
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Post by CanuckBob on Mon May 13, 2019 9:12 am

They will get it figured out as they are losing millions in potential tax revenues. Investors are pouring into Canada eager to setup production facilities.

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Post by brigitte on Mon May 13, 2019 10:18 am

The first problem to fix here is corruption not legalzing or letting people steal gazoline or do whatever they feel like. The lack of enforcement is dreadful, in some state like Chiapas it borders anarchy.. people can block roads for whatever reason and extort money from peope almost on a daily basis, people invade other people land and government land and turn around and sell it sometimes with escrituras and only when rich people land is taken does the government act and it goes on and on.. There is NO respect for any rules and order, it can actually be pretty scary.
Mexico is not Portugal or Canada  and legalizing drugs should not be a prority . I rarely agree with Spencer but on this one I do, way too many people without any scrupules or moral are living off drugs, to yank their income is not going to help.

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Post by CanuckBob on Mon May 13, 2019 12:31 pm

It just stops the users from going to jail. The producing and dealing will still be illegal and done by the cartel. You people are confusing decriminalization for possession with legalization.

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Post by brigitte on Mon May 13, 2019 1:54 pm

like in the states with the legal opiods that people are taking like crazy causing problems here?

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Post by CanuckBob on Mon May 13, 2019 2:12 pm

Meth is the problem here.

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Post by brigitte on Mon May 13, 2019 3:46 pm

yes, I know.

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Post by CanuckBob on Mon May 13, 2019 8:28 pm

So why put a bunch of meth heads in prison for possession of personal quantities?? Instead spend the money on education and rehab. Throw the book at the dealers and producers.

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Post by brigitte on Mon May 13, 2019 9:03 pm

We see how well it works in the US where they have a whole lot money for rehab than they do here. Frankly by the amont of meth heads there are around, I do not think they seirously go after the users .

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