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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:41 pm

This is my experience so far for the upcoming "snowbird" season.

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Post by RickS on Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:57 pm

I'm wondering if one of the reasons Canadians are cancelling is the uncertainty of being able to drive out of Canada into/across the US. Definitely sad stories of Canadians being turned back by US Customs. Then having to quarantine once back into Canada.

Of course, many/most of your quests are probably NOT driving.... right?
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Post by mudgirl on Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:30 am

Maybe Canadians have more concerns about travelling during a pandemic than Americans do. Like they value their life more than a winter holiday?

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:34 am

Yes, I think Canadians are being far more cautious than the Americans. Most of our guests fly down.

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Post by brigitte on Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:10 am

CanuckBob wrote:Yes, I think Canadians are being far more cautious than the Americans. Most of our guests fly down.

and the results shows in the statistics on the pandemia.. Canada is doing way better than the US..

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Post by lakeside7 on Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:28 pm

Given all the loose comments and political bull sh*t that is flying around If I were a Canadian, I would think twice / 3 times about coming to Mexico!!


Cases and mortality by country, compiled by John Hopkins

COUNTRY CONFIRMED DEATHS CASE-FATALITY DEATHS/100K POP.
Mexico 814,328 83,642 10.3% 66.28
US 7,717,932 214,370 2.8% 65.52
United Kingdom 593,565 42,850 7.2% 64.45
Canada 182,767 9,661 5.3% 26.07

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:03 pm

And I certainly wouldn't go through the US whether by plane, train or automobile........

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Post by RickS on Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:44 pm

CanuckBob wrote:And I certainly wouldn't go through the US whether by plane, train or automobile........

But that has nothing to do with Covid-19, right Bob?

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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:31 pm

Correct. The place is a powder keg with a match playing monkey at the helm.

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Post by RoyD on Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:44 pm

The CDC stats are similar (change daily). The thing to look at is the percentages not the numbers. Every country has a different population density. The US has the lowest percentage death count in the world, but the highest death count (population), excluding China who is keeping their counts a secret.

I agree with the part about getting back into the US from Mexico/Canada. It was always a problem for us (even before Covid). Almost missed connecting flights twice.

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Post by mudgirl on Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:34 pm

RoyD wrote:The CDC stats are similar (change daily). The thing to look at is the percentages not the numbers. Every country has a different population density. The US has the lowest percentage death count in the world, RoyD

Absolutely 100% false. Don't know where you come up with such an idea.

US- 668 deaths per 1 million population
Canada- 255
France- 506
Italy- 600
Germany- 116
Japan-13
Australia-35

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Post by CanuckBob on Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:21 pm

Faux news????

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Post by Lucky Girl on Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:08 pm

Is he using some type of new math??

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Post by slainte39 on Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:40 pm

RoyD wrote:The CDC stats are similar (change daily). The thing to look at is the percentages not the numbers. Every country has a different population density. The US has the lowest percentage death count in the world, but the highest death count (population), excluding China who is keeping their counts a secret.

I agree with the part about getting back into the US from Mexico/Canada. It was always a problem for us (even before Covid). Almost missed connecting flights twice.

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This is so far off the mark that if it wasn´t a terrible situation, it would be comical.

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Post by mudgirl on Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:27 pm

Lucky Girl wrote:Is he using some type of new math??

You mean the type that innumerate people who frequent conspiracy websites and think their country is "doing great" use? And really, anyone who wouldn't question what's coming from the CDC these days, while having the audacity to say other countries are lying about their numbers, is a hopeless case.

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Post by TomQC on Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:08 am

mudgirl wrote:
RoyD wrote:The CDC stats are similar (change daily). The thing to look at is the percentages not the numbers. Every country has a different population density. The US has the lowest percentage death count in the world, RoyD

Absolutely 100% false. Don't know where you come up with such an idea.

US- 668 deaths per 1 million population
Canada- 255
France- 506
Italy- 600
Germany- 116
Japan-13
Australia-35

More stats.:   COVID DEATHS PER MILLION
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Post by RoyD on Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:20 am

I am sorry to throw water on your campfire. I just had my doctor appointment this week and he gave me the long talk about Covid straight from medical sources (without asking for it I might add). Let's do the math:

Cases 7,950,000 divided by population 328,200,000 = 2.4 %
Deaths 217,000 divided by population 328,200,000 = .067 %

Again, the news media twists everything around to make it worse than it actually is. However, we have a lot of deaths and that is a sad thing.

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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:38 am

RoyD wrote:I am sorry to throw water on your campfire. I just had my doctor appointment this week and he gave me the long talk about Covid straight from medical sources (without asking for it I might add). Let's do the math:

Cases 7,950,000 divided by population 328,200,000 = 2.4 %
Deaths 217,000 divided by population 328,200,000 = .067 %

Again, the news media twists everything around to make it worse than it actually is. However, we have a lot of deaths and that is a sad thing.

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What did your doctor say about the people who don’t die but have serious effects that will go on for years or the rest of their lives? Does he have stats and percentages for that?
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Post by CanuckBob on Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:48 am

RoyD wrote:I am sorry to throw water on your campfire. I just had my doctor appointment this week and he gave me the long talk about Covid straight from medical sources (without asking for it I might add). Let's do the math:

Cases 7,950,000 divided by population 328,200,000 = 2.4 %
Deaths 217,000 divided by population 328,200,000 = .067 %

Again, the news media twists everything around to make it worse than it actually is. However, we have a lot of deaths and that is a sad thing.

RoyD

There is still 660 deaths per million which is a far cry from being the lowest. It isn't even close to being the lowest. It is far closer to being one of the worst.

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Post by mudgirl on Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:06 pm

RoyD wrote:I am sorry to throw water on your campfire. I just had my doctor appointment this week and he gave me the long talk about Covid straight from medical sources (without asking for it I might add). Let's do the math:

Cases 7,950,000 divided by population 328,200,000 = 2.4 %
Deaths 217,000 divided by population 328,200,000 = .067 %

Again, the news media twists everything around to make it worse than it actually is. However, we have a lot of deaths and that is a sad thing.

RoyD

Your GP is no more qualified to give out comprehensive and accurate information on COVID than he is to do brain or open-heart surgery. Medicine is a highly specialized field. That's why there are epidemiologists and virologists.

And the US currently has the 7th highest death rate per total population of any country in the world. (I don't count Belgium, as they are counting quite differently from other countries- they count all deaths that are only suspected of being from COVID in the total count) You claimed the US had the least number of deaths according to population. So who's twisting things around?

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Post by Jreboll on Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:07 pm

You’re right. I’ve heard lectures on the statistics that it makes my head spin. There are many words being used and each has a specific description. It is very easy to fool a layman who is not aware of this. That GP either doesn’t know or is spinning the numbers.

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Post by slainte39 on Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:01 pm

RoyD wrote:

Again, the news media twists everything around to make it worse than it actually is. However, we have a lot of deaths and that is a sad thing.

RoyD

I think the "twisting" is going on right here on this thread and I can´t imagine why.  
What does the media have to gain from false information?  What are you gaining from saying it´s false?
None of it makes any sense unless you just can´t do the comparison math of deaths to population.
Maybe you sleep better at night or use it for an excuse to throw your mask in the trash can.

News media definition=  Thousands of,  newsprint publications, radio and tv, journalists, reporters, and most scientists, forming a great conspiracy cabal, to mislead the people up north in the US.......Is that how you see it?
Well they didn´t convince you, so how are they convincing so many others?  Must be your superior intellect.......

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Post by ComputerGuy on Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:22 pm

Because the media all work for all the countries around the world that are in on the conspiracy. Amazing how countries who can't get along any other time, across the globe, all managed to get together and make up a pandemic, and then keep secret the fact that there is no Covid after all... it's just a plot to get us to... um, do what now?
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Post by slainte39 on Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:30 pm

ComputerGuy wrote: it's just a plot to get us to... um, do what now?

Eat more ice cream, which is what I´m going to do.

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Post by RoyD on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:23 am

After further research into other countries infection/death rates by population, I have to admit that I was WRONG. The US is the highest in the world, except maybe for China who has under reported their numbers.

Thanks to all for putting me to task and making fact check it.

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