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Post by Dostortas Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:10 am

Just announced, Canadian government has suspended all flights to and from Mexico and the Caribbean starting January 31 until April 30.  

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Post by brigitte Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:17 am

Good for Canada. Not so good for people who maybe stranded away from home but it is only till April..

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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:39 am

Doubtful many Canadians will be travelling anyhow given all the requirements to get back home now (pcr test, hotel quarantining etc.) although it does look like some maybe stuck here longer than anticipated.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/travel/news/trudeau-just-announced-that-international-flights-can-now-only-land-at-4-canadian-airports/ar-BB1ddo3x?li=AAggFp5

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Post by brigitte Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:48 pm

yes it is an expensive way to travel , if you have to go into isolation, get tests etc..

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Post by CHILLIN Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:13 pm

I think "stuck in Mexico" is not a good word choice. Maybe some will slow down a bit, get to know more fully the culture and people of Mexico, find that things they thought they needed in place for retirement are a lot lower cost and possibly not necessary. Then they decide to run away from home to Mexico, living here permanently, for at least a few years.

That is supported by history.
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Post by TomQC Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:13 pm

Dostortas wrote:Just announced, Canadian government has suspended all flights to and from Mexico and the Caribbean starting January 31 until April 30.  

That's only for the major Canadian airlines; Air Canada, WestJet, Sunwing and Air Transat. Incoming international flights are limited to the four airports; Montreal, Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver. All travellers must currently report a negative COVID-19 test result, taken 72 hours prior to boarding Canada-bound flights.

Travellers will then have to wait up to three days at an approved hotel hile awaiting the results of a mandatory polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test at their own expense, which is expected to be more than $2,000, that figure factors in the extra costs hotels are absorbing to keep their workers safe.

Travellers who test negative will be allowed to quarantine at home under “significantly increase surveillance and enforcement.” The federal government is hiring private security firms to support local police services in that effort. People who test positive are expected to move to a federal facility for a mandatory quarantine.
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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:38 pm

One can always fly via the US with an American carrier too. This will only be effective against the direct flights from Canada to Mexico. Seems fruitless.......

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Post by BisbeeGal Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:07 pm

I do not like the idea of banning someone from going to their own home.  People who know me, or read my posts, know that I am about as liberal as one can be.  

But not letting me go to my home after I've tested negative pre-flight, is simply wrong.  

And yes I know that the test result is a snapshot in time, and that I could be positive when I arrive.  But let me go home with the requirement that I stay there, and make me retake the test (at home) within x days of arrival and then quarantine me at home if that test is positive.

I have the right to go to my own home.
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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:36 pm

Well on the other side of the coin the Canadian government has been warning Canadians abroad for some time that you may not be able to get home.

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Post by mudgirl Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:34 pm

BisbeeGal wrote:I do not like the idea of banning someone from going to their own home.  People who know me, or read my posts, know that I am about as liberal as one can be.  

But not letting me go to my home after I've tested negative pre-flight, is simply wrong.  

And yes I know that the test result is a snapshot in time, and that I could be positive when I arrive.  But let me go home with the requirement that I stay there, and make me retake the test (at home) within x days of arrival and then quarantine me at home if that test is positive.

I have the right to go to my own home.

Well of course the issue is that while you are a responsible person who would quarantine in your own home, others are not. So short of posting a guard outside the door of everyone who feels as you do, people have shown that they can't be trusted.

Australia was down to no community transmission, then some folks flew in, were instructed to quaratine for 14 days, but did no such thing and started a new spread.

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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:51 pm

Apparently someone contacted AeroMexico and they are also discontinuing flights to and from Canada after Feb. 7.

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Post by brigitte Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:39 pm

The problem is that some people are totally irreponsible.. I know a  young woman in France who came down with covid.. she passed it on to her parents who both got very sick but did not get tested despite being very sick with covid symptoms.. The woman who is in her 60s visited her mother  who is in her 90´s and passed on covid to her. The mother is now dying with covid in a hospital and the daughter, the 60 something went to the hospital to sign up forms.. She told the hospital she had covid and they told her to come with a mask and sign the forms anyways.....repeat that kind of stupidity, carelessness and I do not know what to call it ,a few thousand times and you have a big problem..
In Taipei where they are controlling covid pretty well , if you are taken into quarentine after a flight , despite the fact that you are negative... you have to wear a mask inside the room and they have cameras to make sure you do....

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Post by Playaboy Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:47 am

Hey Canadians? Would you be happy with these restrictions if you son had a massive heart attack and you can't see him? Maybe he lives, maybe he dies but you can't be with him.

Or being with your family when you first great grandbaby is born? I am sure that phone video the family sends will be enough.

In fact you can't get home at all with no flights. You can't enter the USA. April 30 won't be the end of restrictions, it will be extended

You have a negative test before you fly, you have a negative test when you land, and you are locked down for 2 weeks. You never had any covid but you are restricted anyway.

Is this acceptable to Canadians now?

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Post by ferret Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:42 am

Yes it is. It is what has to happen because idiots roam the world. It's always the entitled few who spoil it for the many. That's why laws exist...
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Post by CanuckBob Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:08 am

Most Canadians support these restrictions.

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Post by ComputerGuy Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:17 am

I feel very sorry for all those who's parents are in senior homes where they are not allowed to visit. How painful that must be, especially when someone dies and you haven't been able to be with them. But only an idiot would go out of his way to expose everyone else by breaking the rules we've had to set up.

Yes, it is continuing to be a terrible time for many. So was rationing during the war. We came out of it on the other end by not being idiots about it.
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Post by Dostortas Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:15 am

CanuckBob wrote:Apparently someone contacted AeroMexico and they are also discontinuing flights to and from Canada after Feb. 7.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/364474

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Post by Dostortas Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:21 am

I would agree with Canuck Bob, most Canadians seem to support these restrictions, those in Canada anyways. The Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms (similar to the ACLU) has announced their intention to file a lawsuit against the Canadian Government’s new quarantine policy.

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Post by brigitte Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:52 am

Canadians are pretty sensible people and I can see accepting this if it is inthe interest of everyone.. People travelling during this crisis , I have be grown up and realized that they could be stranded at one time or another...It is no fun and expensive but these are risks you take when being away from home..

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Post by mudgirl Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:36 pm

Playaboy wrote:Hey Canadians? Would you be happy with these restrictions if you son had a massive heart attack and you can't see him?

What does happiness have to do with it? Of course that would be a painful situation, just as it's painful for me not to have seen my new grandbaby who's now 15 months old since she was 4 months old. Nor have I seen my other daughter or my other Canadian grandkids in even longer than that.

My personal happiness and situation is immaterial. Stopping the spread of the pandemic and its resulting deaths is what's important here. Responsible adults understand that.


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Post by Dostortas Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:28 pm

Mudgirl, it seems you often make very valid points and while I might not always agree , I certainly appreciate that your comments provide me with the opportunity to see things from a different perspective. Where you lose me is when you add a little dig at the end. It somewhat invalidates your very valid points. Just saying.

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Post by ferret Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:21 pm

LOL! She's a true spoken blunt Canadian. If you don't like the little dig at the end it's because you recognize yourself and are feeling a shade guilty... for not being responsible.

There is no way this pandemic is going to be over anytime soon if individuals don't start being responsible for both themselves and others. This is NOT socialism. It's common sense.
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Post by Dostortas Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:52 pm

Ferret, that’s some flawed thinking right there. But you do you Boo.

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Post by ferret Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:05 pm

Flawed? In what way?
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Post by Dostortas Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:38 pm

because you recognize yourself and are feeling a shade guilty... for not being responsible. A general statement about something and someone you know absolutely nothing about. Like I said, you do you boo.

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