Unfortunately, another black eye for Mexico

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2012/08/03/sk-man-dies-mexico-120803.html

alfnannie wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2012/08/03/sk-man-dies-mexico-120803.html

It said NOT accidental so what was he involved in? Fishy as to why. Need to wait for more details.

It doesn't matter to people who read the headline, it happened in Mexico and that's all they really remember or care to remember.

alfnannie wrote:It doesn't matter to people who read the headline, it happened in Mexico and that's all they really remember or care to remember.

One killing means nothing. How many are killed in the US and Canada daily? Hundreds???

This is a bit ludicrous, do you think every time an Englishman, German, Chinese, etc gets killed in a US city it is newsworthy? Does that mean the entire country is off limits and scary? OOHOO, better not travel to NYC because a Canadian was murdered in the war zone of Boston. We are not talking of mass murders of foreigners here.

itsme wrote:This is a bit ludicrous, do you think every time an Englishman, German, Chinese, etc gets killed in a US city it is newsworthy? Does that mean the entire country is off limits and scary? OOHOO, better not travel to NYC because a Canadian was murdered in the war zone of Boston. We are not talking of mass murders of foreigners here.

You are 10,000% correct. Canada continues to bash Mexico. I don't know why. I do know why the US continues to bash Mexico. It's because the US wants to keep the tourist $$$$ at home because the country is in p*ss poor condition.

"I do know why the US continues to bash Mexico. It's because the US wants to keep the tourist $$$$ at home because the country is in p*ss poor condition."

What a simplistic fool!

CheenaGringo wrote:"I do know why the US continues to bash Mexico. It's because the US wants to keep the tourist $$$$ at home because the country is in p*ss poor condition."

What a simplistic fool!

OK, oh so wise one who knows something about EVERYTHING, why???

Further, they want retirees to stay in the US and buy foreclosed properties, rather than buy here and spend their $$$ here.

Since so many Canadians vacation in Mexico, any news about it sells papers.

CanuckBob wrote:Since so many Canadians vacation in Mexico, any news about it sells papers.

Yeah, I guess with newspaper sales in the crapper due to the internet, those greedy SOB's will do anything. No conscience, but no different than the US.

And TSA in the airports warns everyone not to go to Mexico.

The underlying racism in predominatnt aglo-saxon countries has much to do with it.

I am sure that Mexico would be in the top 5 holiday destinations for Canadians. #1 would be the US and Mexico could be #2 or #3 however Cuba is gaining in popularity.

seisdedos wrote:The underlying racism in predominatnt aglo-saxon countries has much to do with it.

No doubt that also is a factor.

People I know just moved back to the states for health reasons. At the border, the agent on the U.S. side told them they "just got out in time", in spite of protests that the returnees had had no problems in ten years of living in Mexico. Didn't make a dent in the agent, whose mind was thoroughly made up.

People seem to love bad news about what's happening SOMEWHERE ELSE, since it makes them feel better about the place they're living.....like AZ or TX.
Go figure.

gringal wrote:People I know just moved back to the states for health reasons. At the border, the agent on the U.S. side told them they "just got out in time", in spite of protests that the returnees had had no problems in ten years of living in Mexico. Didn't make a dent in the agent, whose mind was thoroughly made up.

People seem to love bad news about what's happening SOMEWHERE ELSE, since it makes them feel better about the place they're living.....like AZ or TX.
Go figure.

Remember when you are talking to a guard they are picked for certain behavior. The east germans even took it to extremes and only picked stupid people
who didn't like to think thus they could kill people and go to sleep that night. Not kidding!! This whole drug/terrorism thing is so big business it is many
people rice bowl or how they make there money. Prisons/crime/drugs all feed this growth industry. Paying any attention to a guard is very foolish as
they are not impartial. In fact they are trained to believe this. I do not believe the US guards are as stupid as the East German guards but they do believe
the propoganda. We sat next to some ICE border agents in Ajo Arizona once and they had no sense of the truth with Mexico. Don't bother talking to these
folks. They truly believe.

Z

Are we being a little hypersensitive? I mean, the report says a Canadian was murdered in Mexico and there is no other real information. That is hardly Mexico-bashing; Canadian media would report on the murder of a Canadian tourist wherever it happened: Dominican Republic, New York City, London - it would get coverage.

The article that is linked to appears to have been edited sine the link was first posted here. I seem to recall it mentioning the beating of the Canadian woman in Mazatlan a short while back. That case has nothing to do with this case but the Canadian press made a point of mentioning it also.

Over sensitive? Maybe. Maybe not.

Okay, I didn't see that and I agree that would be a little over the top. Still, encouraging that someone decided to edit it out.

Axixic wrote:Okay, I didn't see that and I agree that would be a little over the top. Still, encouraging that someone decided to edit it out.

Try this link:

http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012/08/04/20067161.html

It is interesting that there seem to be no follow up on these murders, If you have lived down here for a while or if you read between the lines ,you know that there is more to the stories so why bring up part of the story alone?

Some guy is found dead with 20 000 pesos next two him and 9 bullets in his body in Culiacan among all places ,please.....tell us more.

[quote="seisdedos"]The underlying racism in predominatnt aglo-saxon countries has much to do with it. [/quote]

Unquestionably. One could expand that notion by including other predominantly caucasion areas that are not primarily anglo-saxon as in most of Northern Europe where people have a tendency to disparage people, especially more tan or brown skinned people, originating from and/or living in more southerly climes and this disparagement becomes more pronounced as these chauvinists consider people from more equatorial lands.

I am reminded of Mitt Romney´s comment in Isreal regarding their "cultural superiority" over the Palestinians the other day - a comment that stirred up quite a controversy. He went on to say that this cultural superiority was demonstrated by the vast differences in wealth and productivity between Isreal and the Palestinian Territories and,further, that this was not a phenomenon limited to the geographic juxtaposition of Isrealis and Palestinians but could be observed in other parts of the world. For instance, said he, look at the United States and Mexico - two countries side-by-side both with an abundance of natural resources but with great disparity in wealth and productivity which could be laid to "cultural differences" implying, with this comment, the cultural superiority of the inhabitants of the United States over the inhabitants of Mexico. A most insensitive and racist remark but one, no doubt, shared by many in the U.S. and Canada when contemplating the geopolitical makeup of North America.

So, naturally, the death of a Canadian under questionnable and, perhaps, criminal circumstances in the barbaric streets of Puerto Vallarta is more significant than the death of a Canadian under similar circumstances in the civilized streets of Ottawa.

This is not so much a "black eye" for Mexico as it is a "black eye" for the integrity of those in the Canadian press who sensationalized a random, unexplained death of one Canadian, one of countless Canadians who vacation here in Mexico safely, by implying, somehow, a collective guilt attaching to Mexican society in general. The parochial Canadian press rears it ugly head.

seisdedos wrote:Try this link:

http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012/08/04/20067161.html

Agreed - over the top to list (apparently) unrelated events that just happened to have occurred in Mexico.

hound dog wrote: For instance, said he, look at the United States and Mexico - two countries side-by-side both with an abundance of natural resources but with great disparity in wealth and productivity which could be laid to "cultural differences" implying, with this comment, the cultural superiority of the inhabitants of the United States over the inhabitants of Mexico. A most insensitive and racist remark but one, no doubt, shared by many in the U.S. and Canada when contemplating the geopolitical makeup of North America.

A remark similar, although in less vulgar terms, to those used by Americans throughout the history of the two countries. That was the type of thinking that lead to the justification of manifest destiny and the theft of half of Mexico by the morally superior gringos.

The goal was to maximize the Mexican territory acquired with the least amount of Mexicans being absorbed into US territory.

To this day the woman who was beaten in Matzatlan has never given a public accounting of what happened as far as I know. That suggests to me that either there was some illegal activities (drug use. etc.) or she was so wasted that she has no recollection at all. I don't believe her husband has given a public statement of events either.

Axixic, you are also from Calgary, was there anything ever published locally from either her or her husband as to what actually transpired?

C-Bob - No, I drove down from Calgary but I am from Ontario. No info on what was published there but you could check the Calgary newspaper(s) websites, I imagine.