The students were burned alive

Yep.

With the whole world watching, the Mexican federal government promised this would be an open and honest investigation. Dozens of people have been arrested, including a mayor, his wife, a police chief and a gangster boss. The governor of Guerrero was forced to resign. The testimony of multiple witnesses has been corroborated by physical evidence and DNA analysis. Now, even some of the federal government's harshest critics agree that they did exactly what they said they would do, that is, carry out an open and honest investigation. From InSight Crime...


Autopsy Contrasts with Mexico Govt's Typical Response
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/autopsy-iguala-massacre-case-contrasts-mexico-govt-organized-crime-response

OPEN ?? HONEST ?? The Argentine Forensic stated that they did not find the remains, but were presented the remains by PGR (Gov't).
the location of the bodies still remains a mystery.

And How can anyone believe there is a shred of honesty in this
corrupt administration after their clampdown on Dr Mireles and
the AutoDefenses in Michoacán. and etc, etc ??

Yep. Totally.

Oldyfeliz wrote:OPEN ?? HONEST ??    The Argentine Forensic stated that they did not find the remains, but were presented the remains by PGR (Gov't).
the location of the bodies still remains a mystery.

And How can anyone believe there is a shred of honesty in this
corrupt administration after their clampdown on Dr Mireles and
the AutoDefenses in Michoacán. and etc, etc ??

Did you even read smartalex's post and link?
So you wouldn't believe anything that anyone says or reports, that represents the government, no matter what?
Which means you have your head buried, OBJECTIVELY   , in the sand.

From the Informador 11 dic 2014
From Univ Guad Autonoma

The testimony of the accused and the hypothesis of the PGR have no basis in fact and / or physical or natural chemical phenomena, the scientists said in conference prensa.Por example, if the bodies had been burned with pure wood, then you would need an average of 33 tons of tree trunks about four inches in diameter to cremate 43 bodies "995 tires would be needed to incinerate 43 normalistas and would have a column of smoke and fire of several kilometers," Jorge a Montemayor -.. See more at:http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2014/564728/6/cientificos-de-unam-contradicen-version-de-pgr-sobre-normalistas.htm#sthash.n8OmROgQ.dpuf






















































































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what's your point? after all this time one can conclude that they have been killed-period. the why is apparent-the how is irrelevant. we, meaning humanity, may never know.

Yes, I read, and have read as much as I can find & the more I read that the Gov't states , the bigger lies come forth. Read below for more proof

The testimony of the accused and the hypothesis of the PGR have no basis in fact and / or physical or natural chemical phenomena, the scientists said in conference prensa.Por example, if the bodies had been burned with pure wood, then you would need an average of 33 tons of tree trunks about four inches in diameter to cremate 43 bodies "995 tires would be needed to incinerate 43 normalistas and would have a column of smoke and fire of several kilometers," Jorge a Montemayor -.. See more at:http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2014/564728/6/cientificos-de-unam-contradicen-version-de-pgr-sobre-normalistas.htm#sthash.n8OmROgQ.dpuf






















































































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Oldyfeliz wrote:From the Informador 11 dic 2014
From Univ Guad Autonoma

The testimony of the accused and the hypothesis of the PGR have no basis in fact and / or physical or natural chemical phenomena, the scientists said in conference prensa.Por example, if the bodies had been burned with pure wood, then you would need an average of 33 tons of tree trunks about four inches in diameter to cremate 43 bodies "995 tires would be needed to incinerate 43 normalistas and would have a column of smoke and fire of several kilometers," Jorge a Montemayor -.. See more at:http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2014/564728/6/cientificos-de-unam-contradicen-version-de-pgr-sobre-normalistas.htm#sthash.n8OmROgQ.dpuf


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how much more empty space and repeats do you plan on posting?

ANSWER esoecially for U!

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/12/university-experts-normalistas-were-not.html#more

Borderland Beat article

The latest hypothesis as to what happened to the bodies of the 43 students comes from forensic investigators from the national university UNAM and is all over the Spanish language news now. They theorize that they were burned in army crematoriums and are demanding that the army make available records of the use of these facilities and that businesses that provide them with fuel show if there was an unusual increase in sales at that time.

There hasn't been a lot of hard evidence of this put forward but the army had already been accused of having a hand in the massacre and disappearance, and if that is true it would explain why the government would come up with the story of the fire at the garbage dump and the supposed witness to it, and the suspicious discovery of a single bone fragment.

It strains credibility that that number of bodies could be burned under primitive conditions without leaving DNA evidence at the site, and numerous scientific investigators have stated that there was no fire of the size that would have been required at the dump.

http://www.vanguardia.com.mx/investigansiencrematoriosdelejercitoincineraronalos43normalistas-2242795.html

Here's the attorney general's account of his agency's investigation up to this point. Their investigation continues. In addition. there are a number on ongoing investigations by both Mexican and international human rights organizations. Yes, the whole world is watching. From El Universal...

Normalistas fueron ejecutados e incinerados: PGR
www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion-mexico/2015/normaliastas-desaparecidos-guerrero-iguala-epn-pgr-1072196.html

Google Translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Fnacion-mexico%2F2015%2Fnormaliastas-desaparecidos-guerrero-iguala-epn-pgr-1072196.html

(The videos will only play from the original El Universal link.)

So, the PGR is claiming that this Guy "El Cepillo" has just confessed to everything and this story is la pura neta. El Cepillo made a big "ooopsie" because he thought the Normalistas were a rival gang so He ordered them to be hauled off by the police, executed, burned at the dump and scattered into the river.
Never mind that they were not armed and their backpacks, books and schoolwork were Found dumped somewhere else.
Am I getting this Right so far? This is the most stupid story yet.

I haven't heard anything (theories)  that makes any real sense.
So what's the truth?....that "area 51" army crematorium that's as elusive as the students bodies?
This, and the missing Malaysian airplane are right up there with the Amelia Earhart disappearance, as far as unsolved mysteries.
I'd be looking for a bunch of people running around with their tongues cut out.
Sooner or later, a whistleblower will appear......maybe.

Some of the alternative theories make the 9/11 Truthers seem rational by comparison.

Good thing that hospital mysteriously exploded to have a heartbreaking news story different from the 43 that will bring lucrative contracts and jobs

Intercasa wrote:Good thing that hospital mysteriously exploded to have a heartbreaking news story different from the 43 that will bring lucrative contracts and jobs

Licenciadito,you're not suggesting that the government blew up a maternity hospital to draw attention away from the normalista massacre are you??

viajero wrote:

Intercasa wrote:Good thing that hospital mysteriously exploded to have a heartbreaking news story different from the 43 that will bring lucrative contracts and jobs

Licenciadito,you're not suggesting that the government blew up a maternity hospital to draw attention away from the normalista massacre are you??

Looks like it was *YOU* viajero that suggested the government, a local rumour perhaps.

arbon wrote:

viajero wrote:

Intercasa wrote:Good thing that hospital mysteriously exploded to have a heartbreaking news story different from the 43 that will bring lucrative contracts and jobs

Licenciadito,you're not suggesting that the government blew up a maternity hospital to draw attention away from the normalista massacre are you??

Looks like it was *YOU* viajero that suggested the government, a local rumour perhaps.

Local rumor? Like when Intercasa posted on this forum last year that a truck with nuclear waste had been stolen in Guadalajara and was going to be used as a dirty bomb at the international book fair in Guadalajara where representatives of  Israel were the guests of honor?That kind of local rumor??
Learn how to read between the lines,arbon,or better yet go tend to your sheep.Eh.

Right on V......the implication was appalling, to say the least.

People have mentioned it, perhaps only those who saw the movie La Dictadura Perfecta, after all, isnt this sectioon for rumors too?

Silly me...I thought Spencer was joking about ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Truth is stranger than fiction. We may never know the Truth, there seems to be a new official story weekly.

Smartalex wrote:Silly me...I thought Spencer was joking about ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Apparently not.
Call me naive but I just find his suggestion that the Mexican government purposely blew up a maternity hospital to deflect attention from the normalista scandal both insulting and absurd.

Really......... but you don't find the Mexican government up to their eyeballs in the student burning fiasco insulting and absurd????

viajero wrote:

Smartalex wrote:Silly me...I thought Spencer was joking about ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Apparently not.
Call me naive but I just find his suggestion that the Mexican government purposely blew up a maternity hospital to deflect attention from the normalista scandal both insulting and absurd.

There are crimes of commission and crimes of omission, take you pick or ask your uncle.