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To all Americans: Please be more selective about the kind of person you put in charge of the nuclear button. The whole world depends on it.
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ferret wrote:Don't be ashamed. Most people know that the majority of those in the U.S. are good law abiding citizens. You are not tarred by Trump's brush if you 1) either didn't support his bullshit and/or 2) came to realize that you'd been had by a con man.
To all Americans: Please be more selective about the kind of person you put in charge of the nuclear button. The whole world depends on it.
And that button is about the only thing left he hasn't pushed. Let's hope it doesn't occur to him.
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Bearded Beemer wrote:I can totally sympathize with you. I have felt embarrassed to admit I'm American for the last 4 years. I still cant believe he won the election. He opened to door to hate and racism like never before. Watching the scenes from yesterday actually made me furious and disgusted. This was 100% his doing. Partisan politics in American have taken a brutal turn for the worse that I dont think we will recover from. I am neither Democrat or Republican, I vote for whomever I think will do the best job for my family, me, my state, and my country. His victory in 2016 was the first time in my life that the person I voted for didn't win the Presidential election. 2020 has been an all around bust, and I sincerely hope that the Biden Presidency and 2021 will turn things around for our country and the rest of the world.
If only the actual votes meant more than the Electoral College.
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I must admit that the beard becomes a goatee during motorcycle season, but is unleashed again in the winter, much to my wife's objection!!!CHILLIN wrote:The only effect on me is that noticed nearly all the trump supporter were white males, with beards, and baseball caps. So I will keep the whiskers shaved and retire my baseball cap. This doesn't apply to you oh bearded one. That must be a great sensation your beard flying in the wind on a motorcycle. Shakes all the breadcrumbs out too haha.
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I am a Naturalized US citizen, and NOT a Democrat or Republican.
Hitler by himself was a NOBODY. However with Aholes surrounding him and glorifying him, he WAS A CREATURE.
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Wish it had been the WH.
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What happened at the Capitol this week was horrific and Trump was to blame for stoking the flames of some, low life, morons, who thought it would be great fun to storm the Capitol building. I am not talking about all Trump supporters here, just the ones who violated the law. I would say the same about those that are rioting in Portland too. This stuff needs to stop and spineless politicians need to grow a backbone and do what needs to be done to put an end to it.
Trump did accomplish a lot of good things during his presidency, but he will never be remembered for it, but only what happened this week. He made a huge error in judgement and it will tarnish his legacy forever. I am pretty disgusted with him right now.
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Please show what "good things" Trump accomlished. My memory may be faulty, but I can't think of what these were. I do remember some of the damage done re environmental matters and his attempt to take away Affordable Health Care.
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Please show what "good things" Trump accomlished. My memory may be faulty, but I can't think of what these were. I do remember some of the damage done re environmental matters and his attempt to take away Affordable Health Care.
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RoyD wrote:I will never be ashamed to be an American.
What happened at the Capitol this week was horrific and Trump was to blame for stoking the flames of some, low life, morons, who thought it would be great fun to storm the Capitol building. I am not talking about all Trump supporters here, just the ones who violated the law.
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Excuse me? You say that Trump was to blame for stoking the flames, then say that all Trump supporters aren't responsible? Of course they are. Just because they weren't among those who stormed the Capitol, and other capitols across the country, doesn't mean they aren't culpable for supporting an insane man who wanted and encouraged this to happen.
That's like saying that the Germans who supported Hitler had no culpability for the horrors perpetrated by the Nazis just because they didn't personally work in the death camps or load Jews and Gypsies onto cattle cars bound for the gas chambers.
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2017 - signed an executive order to promote apprenticeships
2017 - Pledges to minimize the economic impact of the Affordable Care Act.
2017 - Withdraws from the job-killing Trans Pactific Pact
2017 - rescinds DACA
It goes on an on through the years. Most of them are so petty as to be meaningless. Some are most definitely promises kept, but nothing that rational people ever asked for. And making pledges? Well, that's about worth the paper it's written on.
In Canada when arguing with friends about politics, I can easily find actual, factual accomplishments from politicians on both sides of the aisle in our governments, listed on the Web without prejudice... because both sides are usually actually trying to make things better.
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mudgirl wrote:RoyD wrote:I will never be ashamed to be an American.
What happened at the Capitol this week was horrific and Trump was to blame for stoking the flames of some, low life, morons, who thought it would be great fun to storm the Capitol building. I am not talking about all Trump supporters here, just the ones who violated the law.
RoyD
Excuse me? You say that Trump was to blame for stoking the flames, then say that all Trump supporters aren't responsible? Of course they are. Just because they weren't among those who stormed the Capitol, and other capitols across the country, doesn't mean they aren't culpable for supporting an insane man who wanted and encouraged this to happen.
That's like saying that the Germans who supported Hitler had no culpability for the horrors perpetrated by the Nazis just because they didn't personally work in the death camps or load Jews and Gypsies onto cattle cars bound for the gas chambers.
Correct. There are 70 million or so who watched the court jester for the last four years and voted for him anyway. They are the base that made this insurrection viable.
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RoyD wrote:I will never be ashamed to be an American.
What happened at the Capitol this week was horrific and Trump was to blame for stoking the flames of some, low life, morons, who thought it would be great fun to storm the Capitol building. I am not talking about all Trump supporters here, just the ones who violated the law. I would say the same about those that are rioting in Portland too. This stuff needs to stop and spineless politicians need to grow a backbone and do what needs to be done to put an end to it.
Trump did accomplish a lot of good things during his presidency, but he will never be remembered for it, but only what happened this week. He made a huge error in judgement and it will tarnish his legacy forever. I am pretty disgusted with him right now.
RoyD
I am not ashamed to be an American but I am ashamed of the Ugly Americans who were given a platform the last four years to burn down our country. And I am more ashamed of other Americans who were afraid to speak out in public about the attempted destruction of democracy.
That being said, I am in agreement that Donald Trump did do one good thing. When he divided the country with his rhetoric the result was that many Americans saw that they had to participate in the democratic process or the democracy would become a banana republic on January 20. The electorate became involved.
As far as the "good" things he has done, I would say that there is not much there because most of what he did is not good for the country long term. Most Americans live bumper sticker politics. That is dangerous when you are crossing the tracks and you never saw a train is coming your way.
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Trump has been spewing out lies every since he has been President and brainwashing his lame brain supporters.. This event is the result of 4 years of stoking the fire. He is not a balanced human being and has continued to divide the people of the country, he is a real sad excuse of a leader. Yes he will be remembered for what he did and that is the way history goes.
Hitler did some good things for the German economy and moral and he will never be remembered for that either..
Preaching hate like Trump did for over 4 years is counterproductive and never ends well.
For the people who are ashamed of being Americans , do not imagine that many other countries do not have the same problems.. the fight between the left and right, between city folks and country folks is alive and well all over Europe and other countries, they just do not have an inane nasty leader to pour oil over the fire...but they are not any different. We live in a dangerous and nasty time.
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brigitte wrote:ROY D
Trump has been spewing out lies every since he has been President and brainwashing his lame brain supporters.. This event is the result of 4 years of stoking the fire. He is not a balanced human being and has continued to divide the people of the country, he is a real sad excuse of a leader. Yes he will be remembered for what he did and that is the way history goes.
Hitler did some good things for the German economy and moral and he will never be remembered for that either...
Yep, and for that reason we should be thanking the cartels that donate to the local hospitals after destroying their community and killing off a buncha other bad guys. Just in case the history books get it wrong.
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RoyD wrote:ar I would say the same about those that are rioting in Portland too. This stuff needs to stop and spineless politicians need to grow a backbone and do what needs to be done to put an end to it.
RoyD
The moment you brought this "equivalency"/"what about" argument into the discussion tells me all I need to know about your real feelings.
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