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RoyD wrote:ar I would say the same about those that are rioting in Portland too. This stuff needs to stop and spineless politicians need to grow a backbone and do what needs to be done to put an end to it.
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The moment you brought this "equivalency"/"what about" argument into the discussion tells me all I need to know about your real feelings.
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rafterbr wrote: I thought the rioters breaking into the White House should have been shot .
Oh please. Enough with American gun culture. Shooting people isn't a solution.
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mudgirl wrote:rafterbr wrote: I thought the rioters breaking into the White House should have been shot .
Oh please. Enough with American gun culture. Shooting people isn't a solution.
Almost all southern states have law if someone breaks into your house, you can shoot them. I see no difference.
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rafterbr wrote:mudgirl wrote:rafterbr wrote: I thought the rioters breaking into the White House should have been shot .
Oh please. Enough with American gun culture. Shooting people isn't a solution.
Almost all southern states have law if someone breaks into your house, you can shoot them. I see no difference.
You missed my point entirely. This is exactly what is wrong with the USA. That shooting people is acceptable.
Many years ago I read of a case in Texas where a Chinese foreign exchange student had been invited to a party at someone's home, but was lost and couldn't find the house. He went up and knocked on a door in the neighborhood to ask for directions, and the man of the house came to the door and shot the poor kid dead on the doorstep. The murderer got off by claiming he was protecting his family.
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Being somewhat older than Arnold, I have terrible memories of those years.
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Many years ago I read of a case in Texas where a Chinese foreign exchange student had been invited to a party at someone's home, but was lost and couldn't find the house. He went up and knocked on a door in the neighborhood to ask for directions, and the man of the house came to the door and shot the poor kid dead on the doorstep. The murderer got off by claiming he was protecting his family.[/quote]
Oh, please. Stop with the pontificating. In the ‘80’s when I go beaten up and raped in my room in Sint Maarten by a guy with a knife if I had had a gun he would have been dead and I would have been glad. And I hate guns.
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slainte39 wrote:RoyD wrote:ar I would say the same about those that are rioting in Portland too. This stuff needs to stop and spineless politicians need to grow a backbone and do what needs to be done to put an end to it.
RoyD
The moment you brought this "equivalency"/"what about" argument into the discussion tells me all I need to know about your real feelings.
Absolute genius here in slainte39 cross post:
slainte39 wrote:For those who can´t see the difference between BLM and Trumpsters, it is very clear to me.
BLM protested and rioted AGAINST an injustice, the abnormal killing of black people by the police.
Trumpsters (minions of Trump) protested and rioted FOR an injustice, denying the majority vote that happened, coincidentally? to be a very large majority of black people.
Doesn´t take a genius to figure that out or draw conclusions.
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I have thought about this for a day or two and can't figure out why one would feel responsible or shame unless you voted for trump or supported him. I can't think of anything folk here could have done here to stop it. I can understand feeling bad but can't see how I can feel ashamed unless I was involved in this mess. We live in Mexico and I can't see how feeling ashamed can help the situation in the USA.
I do understand how others may feel differently. Maybe just maybe this is a wakeup call for many folks but for me its just another page of injustice in the history of the USA. I hope this causes us to grow and learn and avoid such messes in the future but I doubt it.
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karjoeaz wrote:I am ashamed for being put in the same group by many people in the world of being racist an bigotry that came to the fore front over the past four years
Since "we" have no idea what people in the rest of the world think about the majority of U.S. citizens' opinions, and since the greatest number voted for the other candidate in the last two elections, why should we assume that?
I'm not at all ashamed. I am assuming that our election of Biden assured the world that the greatest number want a different kind of government than the last.
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ComputerGuy wrote:Opinions aside, I would not shame the OP for being ashamed.
I had no intention of "shaming" anyone. To disagree with an opinion is not the same as "shaming".
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ComputerGuy wrote:Was not suggesting that you were, sorry. Other posters were quite opposed and I thought it a bit much to lay on. Your post just happened to be the one before mine. I am very familiar with your good intentions for many things.
Sent you a PM (the other matter)..........
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slainte39 wrote:ComputerGuy wrote:Was not suggesting that you were, sorry. Other posters were quite opposed and I thought it a bit much to lay on. Your post just happened to be the one before mine. I am very familiar with your good intentions for many things.
Sent you a PM (the other matter)..........
It never arrived in my inbox??
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gringal wrote:So all is well......good.
CG was the intended recipient.
As far as "all is well"......well, yes, as I´m not attending the "inauguration"....
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