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Post by CanuckBob Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:43 am

I don't think Jalisco or anywhere in Mexico will implement something that may impair their tourism hence the reason they don't currently require testing or quarantining for anyone entering the country.

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Post by ferret Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:32 am

There is no point to NOT doing it. What's the point to tourism if it kills the local population? It already IS implemented in Chetumal (the second link). Believe it or not but there really are responsible tourists who ARE vaccinated. Let them be allowed in! Screw the rest!
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Post by ferret Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:38 am

Supposed stats for Saturday, July 24th, 2021... UP AGAIN!
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Post by Jreboll Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:58 pm

Sarah Huckabee Sanders says we should all get the “Trump” vaccine. Hey, whatever works.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sarah-huckabee-sanders-encourages-arkansans-211400306.html

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Post by Lucky Girl Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:26 pm

Calling the vaccine that name may just work for those red lowlifes in AR.
I thank my lucky stars every day that we no longer live next to the Gov. mansion in Little Rock. The idea of possibly another huckster as neighbor would be more than I could handle.

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Post by ferret Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:04 am

Supposed stats for Sunday, July 25th, 2021... UP AGAIN!
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Post by kiko Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:35 pm

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Post by kiko Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:59 pm

Lucky Girl wrote:Calling the vaccine that name may just work for those red lowlifes in AR.
I thank my lucky stars every day that we no longer live next to the Gov. mansion in Little Rock. The idea of possibly another huckster as neighbor would be more than I could handle.

Some 20 years ago we lived across the street from the governor's mansion in Austin. One day GW was on the mansion steps giving a speech and his pants caught on fire. The fire spread to the governor's mansion and almost burned it down. The really sad news was that the fire took out about half of the surrounding mobile home park.
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Post by ferret Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:25 am

Supposed stats for Monday, July 26th, 2021...fingers crossed...
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Post by ferret Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:03 am

Supposed stats for Tuesday, July 27th,  2021...UP AGAIN! Hoping doesn't work...
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Post by ferret Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:38 am

Supposed stats for Wednesday, July 28th, 2021...sigh. up again.
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Post by ferret Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:24 am

Supposed stats for Thursday, July 29th, 2021... UP AGAIN!
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Post by ferret Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:48 am

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Post by ferret Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:23 am

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Post by ferret Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:02 am

Supposed stats for Saturday, July 31st, 2021...UP AGAIN!
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Post by ferret Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:20 am

Supposed stats for Sunday, August 1st, 2021... a little bit down except for Chapala which went up...
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Post by ferret Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:06 am

Supposed stats for Monday, August 2nd, 2021... down... except locally steady...
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Post by kiko Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:35 pm

I find it ironic that the anti-vaxers "don't want to be part of the experiment" without realizing now they are the control group.
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Post by cerebrozo Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:35 am

Can anyone reconcile the differences between these two government reports?  One says 287 accumulated cases and the other says 556 accumulated cases for Chapala for the week ending 2 Aug. 2021.

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Post by ferret Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:43 am

The only number you should be interested in is "Active Cases". The others are accumulated totals from the beginning.
The charts you are showing are from different entities with the one on the left being the "official" federal government site. The "official" site gives far more detail and I stopped using the one on the right because it only ever shows accumulated cases... like nobody ever recovers.
We all know that the "official" federal site is probably under reporting cases so multiply by a factor of 6 or 10 depending on how inaccurate you feel they are.
Not a perfect system by any means but, if you follow the "active" cases, it indicates trends and that's probably what you need to know the most.
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Post by ferret Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:29 am

Supposed stats for Tuesday, August 3rd, 2021... up on the big scale and down on the local scale...
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Post by cerebrozo Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:50 am

ferret wrote:The only number you should be interested in is "Active Cases". The others are accumulated totals from the beginning.

I've been taking accumulated cases from one week and subtracting them from accumulated cases from the prior week to calculate if new cases coming in are accelerating faster, slowing down, or flattening out.  I realize the numbers are understated, but the trend in (understated) new cases (growing, slowing, or flattening out) is what I have been trying to monitor.
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Post by Jreboll Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:58 am

Sometimes word of mouth is just as accurate. My nephew in a small town in Michoacan tells that there was a quiet period for a while but now he’s starting to see a lot of sick people. There’s also this from Michoacan.net:

In case you missed it, Morelia moved from yellow to red on Monday due a sharp increase in number of Covid cases, which have been above 200 new cases a day (244 yesterday). Pátzcuaro remains at yellow, despite a sharp increase there (53 new cases in last night's report):

https://covid19.srs.care/#/municipios

Overall, México appears to be well along in a new wave thanks to the Delta variant, which is now estimated to be 95% of all cases.

Active Covid case numbers soared to 137,000 on Saturday, well over previous highs
The tally of patients currently diagnosed with the coronavirus is nearing a record as the third wave of the disease continues to grow across Mexico:

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/active-covid-case-numbers-soared-to-137000-on-saturday/
With a test positivity rate of 40%, the real number of cases in Mexico is probably 5 to 10 times higher than reported because of minimal testing.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Share+of+positive+tests&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=USA~MEX

You can find lots of other graphs on the OurWorldInData website by selecting them from the METRIC drop down box near the top of the screen, as well as change the countries being compared.

If the trends continue, I would expect Pátzcuaro to be red in another week or two. Having the balloon festival and crowds in a few weeks seems like a very dubious proposition to me.

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Post by ferret Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:15 am

Thanks Jreboll.
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Post by Lucky Girl Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:35 am

Things are not good in Tizapan, many cases among the younger population, as of yesterday the plaza is shut down again-- not sure how much that will help! I am aware of at least one recent confirmed death.

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Post by ferret Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:21 am

Supposed stats for Wednesday, August 4th, 2021...up in the big picture and down locally
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