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Post by Bearded Beemer on Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:23 am

If you still need help between December 10-20, I'm in.

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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:12 am

Not sure yet. Still trying to squeeze the muni for the $3000 pesos for materials. Once we get the materials I will post again for assistance. Thanks all.

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Post by Bearded Beemer on Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:21 am

Are you still taking private donations, or are you looking at only the muni at this point?
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:28 am

Well I really want to see the muni step up to the plate. We funded the entire rebuild of the benches and bridges so the least they can do is pay for maintenance materials each year. It's simply the point of the matter to me. Thanks for the offer though.......

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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:04 pm

Well it would appear the muni is broke and won't pay a dime. We need about $2000 pesos for stain and materials to do the benches. I'll kick in the first $500. I know a couple others were asking so let me know. The gardening guild is going to work on funds for the bridges.

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Post by Bearded Beemer on Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:54 pm

I'm in for the remaining $1500. Will be in town next week, I'll get in touch with you.
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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:24 pm

That's awesome. Thank you!!! I'm going to try to get them to do the labor.

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Post by Carry Bean on Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:08 pm

Damn straight they can provide the labor. Muni is broke? Baloney. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:11 pm

Apparently with the new federal government the state is not receiving as much federal money as they once did hence the municipalitys don't receive as much from the state.

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Post by Carry Bean on Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:24 pm

Yeah, sure.

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Post by slainte39 on Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:22 am

Carry Bean wrote:Damn straight they can provide the labor.  Muni is broke?  Baloney. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

They have been broke and in deep debt for a long time.....owe many entities and never enough dinero for all the projects and the politicos personal expense accounts,,,,,(if you know what I mean)….. lol!

Political positions have for a long time been one of the few ways that the poor could become affluent, or the rich become richer. Just one window of opportunity in a land with few opportunties.

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Post by Carry Bean on Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:08 am

Yeah, I’m quite sure those expense accounts were the first to suffer. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:43 am

The muni has agreed to provide the labor.

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Post by brigitte on Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:00 am

When dealing with the government you are very lucky if they offer anything.. Just take what they offer. Tt does not do any good to talk about what they should do or could do or what happens to the money because that will not take anyone anywhere. Be gracious thank them and take whatever they offer..and take it right away before they take a chance to change their mind,
A couple of years ago , I took their check for a project and had to hold it until they told me the account had money and then I cashed it the minute they say it was ok.. That was Chiapas but it is the same everywhere.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:55 am

Agreed!!

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Post by gvprod on Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:44 am

The "muni" knows that you guys will step up and fix the problem, so they just sit back and look good for the pictures.
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Post by brigitte on Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:52 am

gvprod, Does it matter ? They are offering labor , just take it and they will take credit, let them, that is the price to pay..  
You can have new benches  and the government will offer labor and will take credit for it or you can sit and bitch about the government and get nothing.
That is the choice. Bob is being pragmatic and will get things done.. Good for him.

In CHiapas I have been dealing with the government for the last 14 years and it is exactly what I get when I want something from them.  Getting some of their cooperation is an accomplishment  when you want to do something that was not on their priority list to start with.
That is life in Mexico get used to it.

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Post by Trailrunner on Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:36 am

Agree.

Curious though, CB, how long ago did the muni agree to provide labor for you?
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Post by CanuckBob on Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:22 am

A couple of days ago.

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Post by Trailrunner on Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:15 pm

Better jump on it or the offer will go bye-bye fast. Suerte.
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Post by slainte39 on Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:19 pm

brigitte wrote:gvprod, Does it matter ? They are offering labor , just take it and they will take credit, let them, that is the price to pay..  
You can have new benches  and the government will offer labor and will take credit for it or you can sit and bitch about the government and get nothing.
That is the choice. Bob is being pragmatic and will get things done.. Good for him.

In CHiapas I have been dealing with the government for the last 14 years and it is exactly what I get when I want something from them.  Getting some of their cooperation is an accomplishment  when you want to do something that was not on their priority list to start with.
That is life in Mexico get used to it.

Truer words never spoken.....agree 100%...I don´t why people can´t get this through their heads and still waste theirs, and everybody else´s time, with their continual whining and bitching.

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Post by Carry Bean on Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:26 pm

I think everyone here is quite aware of that fact and has been for quite some time but I didn’t know venting wasn’t allowed.

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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:01 pm

Carry Bean wrote:I think everyone here is quite aware of that fact and has been for quite some time but I didn’t know venting wasn’t allowed.

Of course “venting” is allowed, as is the reaction to venting, whining, bitching, griping, and complaining when it gets tiresome. When it comes to these types of projects you have people like CBob who just roll up their sleeves and get her done while others prefer to sit on their asses while “venting” about the way they think things should be and how the government “should” be doing it but isn’t.
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Post by ferret on Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:34 pm

In other words, Carry Bean, it wasn't enough to just pitch in money to get the job done with the hope that the government understood preventive maintenance. We're now on the hook forever... or not.
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Post by brigitte on Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:54 pm

I  am afraid you are right Ferret..or you can let the benches  go to hell... It probably is the choice.


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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:02 pm

ferret wrote:In other words, Carry Bean, it wasn't enough to just pitch in money to get the job done with the hope that the government understood preventive maintenance. We're now on the hook forever... or not.

No one is on the hook. You choose to donate money or not. There are many more people who don’t donate than do. But everyone who goes to the malecon gets to enjoy the results. I think it would be nicer if those who do not believe it is the responsibility of residents to maintain the benches would skip these threads instead of venting about how people who contribute are suckers being taken advantage of.
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