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Post by Carry Bean Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:32 pm

CanuckBob wrote:As a side note, my 82 year old father with bad COPD caught it with me. We were very worried however at the first sign of symptoms his doctor gave him that new covid drug. He was feeling better in a couple of days.

What’s the new Covid drug’s name and is it available here? I have COPD so I’m super paranoid about getting Covid.

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Post by kiko Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:58 pm

Probably Paxlovid and although approved in Mexico it is not available as I have been tod by a MD.
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Post by mattoleriver Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:12 pm

Carry Bean wrote:
What’s the new Covid drug’s name and is it available here? I have COPD so I’m super paranoid about getting Covid.
Paxlovid and Molnupiravir
Others are available but not necessarily for home use. This is for U.S. I'll leave it to somebody with better Spanish skills to find out what may be available in Mexico.
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Post by Carry Bean Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:14 pm

Thanks, Kiko and Mattoleriver. Let’s hope it gets here soon.

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Post by caligirl108 Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:22 pm

Just found a good Atlantic article re Omicron spread, testing & what is different about it which is accelerating transmission..  

'Your Negative COVID Test Is Basically Meaningless'. www.theatlantic.com (sorry, I'm lame, can't get direct article link) addresses how Omicron sleuths, seeming to give neg test results during a faster 3-day incubation. So peeps believing neg test vs initial symptoms & then end up spreaders, while trying to be responsible. Some pretty educated virologists & immunologists are stumped right now.

Also, National Geographic's weekly newsletter always provides the latest U.S. map of Covid cases/deaths by county, easy peasy.  This week's issue added this:

"Although the federal government has been able to purchase these vaccines for the youngest kids, it won’t be able to buy the updated jabs that could provide better protection against Omicron when they become available for adults this fall. Ongoing negotiations for a $10 billion COVID-19 response funding, which have been stalled in Congress for months, continue to lose momentum. This is happening as two relatively new and more transmissible versions of Omicron, BA.4 and BA.5, spread across the country, now accounting for about 21 percent of the genetically sequenced samples collected between June 4 and June 11."  

So after 'Independence Day' (so ironic) B4/B5 will rip.. So seems Fall updated vaccines will have to be purchased. Maybe same distribution channels - CVS, Walgreens, HEB, indie pharmacies..?  Hope those TIJ flights stay low. for July, one way Volaris $54.. boo hoo -  would be so great to have a long Calif w/e but it will be Omi-geddon by then. so not normal..

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Post by ferret Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:35 pm

Here is your link to the article... https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/06/is-my-negative-covid-test-accurate/661242/

BTW, everyone who attended the Christmas dinner last year ALL tested NEGATIVE for Covid the day before and the day of... all were vaccinated and boosted... and ALL of them got Covid. I wouldn't trust the home tests under any circumstances.
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Post by mudgirl Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:56 pm

I wonder if a lot of the home test false results are due to user error. I'm sure the PCR tests and even antigen are more accurate in general, but I bet a lot of people home testing just aren't doing it right.

I was just talking to a good friend in Canada last night- she is on her 2nd week of Covid and still feeling pretty lousy. She's a nurse, although she doesn't work directly with patients anymore- she's an administrator of the home care program.

She said she started to feel sick one evening, then woke up at 3am, feeling even sicker, so she did one of the home tests she had. Read positive.

Being a nurse, she would know how to do a good swab on herself. I suspect a lot of folks doing them at home just don't do a proper swab.

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Post by Jreboll Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:07 pm

It’s uncomfortable to as deep as you should to get a proper result so you could be right

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Post by ferret Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:26 am

Supposed stats for Sunday, June 19th, 2022... the counters may have taken a three day weekend but Covid did not...
nacional UP 10,554 to 63,350
jalisco UP 182 to 1,851
chapala, jocotepec, ixtlahuacan and tuxcueca ALL REMAIN AT ZERO
tizapan down 1 to 0
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Post by ferret Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:02 am

Supposed stats for Monday, June 20th, 2022...
nacional DOWN 4,849 to 58,501
jalisco DOWN 177 to 1,674
chapala, jocotepec, tuxcueca and tizapan ALL REMAIN AT ZERO
ixtlahuacan UP 3 to 3
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Post by ferret Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:35 am

Supposed stats for June 21st, 2022...
nacional UP 7,612 to 66,113
jalisco UP 175 to 1,849
chapala up 1 to 1
jocotepec remains at 0
ixtlahuacan down 1 to 2
tuxcueca and tizapan remain at 0
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Post by ferret Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:19 am

No stats for the 21st posted yet.
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Post by ferret Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:19 pm

Finally...supposed stats for Wednesday, June 22nd, 2022...
nacional UP 9,891 to 76,004
jalisco UP 195 to 2,044
chapala same at 1
jocotepec same at 0
ixtlahuacan same at 2
tuxcueca and tizapan same at 0
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Post by ferret Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:23 am

Supposed stats for Thursday, June 23rd...
nacional UP 10,848 to 86,852
jalisco UP 242 to 2,286
chapala same at 1
jocotepec same at 0
ixtlahuacan same at 2
tuxcueca same at 0
tizapan same at 0
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Post by Jreboll Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:21 pm

I’m down here in Michoacán and I’d say maybe 10% are wearing a mask and all are those cheap, flimsy kind. Half don’t even wear them properly. But I’m not hearing of any spike in cases. All say that the time to worry is when the “emigrados” come down.

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Post by ferret Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:08 am

Just after 11 am and still no stats posted. Stay safe.
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Post by ferret Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:20 pm

These supposed stats are for Saturday, June 25th, 2022... please note it's still Saturday...and nothing was posted for the 24th...
nacional UP 21,650 to 108,502
jalisco UP 476 to 2,762
chapala up 1 to 2
jocotepec same at 0
ixtlahuacan same at 2
tuxcueca same at 0
tizapan same at 0
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Post by ferret Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:06 am

Supposed stats for Sunday, June 26th, 2022...
nacional down 1,414 to 107,088
jalisco down 111 to 2,651
chapala same at 2
jocotepec same at 0
ixtlahuacan same at 2
tuxcueca same at 0
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Post by ferret Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:52 am

Supposed stats for Monday, June 27th, 2022...
nacional DOWN 6,160 to 100,928
jalisco DOWN 251 to 2,400
chapala same at 2
jocotepec same at 0
ixtlahuacan down 1 to 1
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Post by ferret Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:20 am

Supposed stats for Tuesday, June 28th, 2022...
nacional UP 11,712 to 112,640
jalisco UP 259 to 2,659
chapala up 1 to 3
jocotepec same at 0
ixtlahuacan up 1 to 2
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Post by Carry Bean Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:27 am

Quite a jump!

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Post by BisbeeGal Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:54 am

Noticed sign at Farmacia Guadalajara that they sell Covid at-home tests. My guess is that vax/boosted people with mild symptoms who take this test, ride it out and their positive case never gets reported.
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Post by Carry Bean Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:08 am

Those home tests aren’t known for accuracy, either. I was at Quality Care yesterday and shocked at the number of people in the waiting room not wearing masks even though there was a sign saying to.

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Post by mudgirl Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:13 pm

Carry Bean wrote:Those home tests aren’t known for accuracy, either. I was at Quality Care yesterday and shocked at the number of people in the waiting room not wearing masks even though there was a sign saying to.

As I mentioned before, I suspect the lack of accuracy has more to do with people doing self-adminstered tests not sticking that swab anywhere near as far up their nose as a health professional does when they test.

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Post by Carry Bean Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:28 pm

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Carry Bean wrote:Those home tests aren’t known for accuracy, either. I was at Quality Care yesterday and shocked at the number of people in the waiting room not wearing masks even though there was a sign saying to.

As I mentioned before, I suspect the lack of accuracy has more to do with people doing self-adminstered tests not sticking that swab anywhere near as far up their nose as a health professional does when they test.

Entirely possible but resulting in dangerous assumptions leading to more spread of Covid if they think they don’t have it when they really do.

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Post by ferret Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:11 am

Still no stats for the 29th. The only consistent thing about their reporting is the inconsistency.
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